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homersdonut
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I think this player could use some advice.
The WR may have his gear all in speed with the exception of his custom which may be spread out.

The best I thing i can see him doing is dumping all his gear in agility but am not sure.

Can he be salvaged?

Strength: 31.26 Blocking: 28.51
Speed: 58.19 Tackling: 9
Agility: 51.63 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 27.19 Catching: 50.08
Stamina: 27.26 Carrying: 33.12
Vision: 39.19 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 34.2 Punting: 9

SA's
5/6/5/5/4
2/2/2/1/0
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Mob-6
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Show us his production. If he is scoring 15 TDs a season and gaining 1,000 yards than who cares about his build.
 
KingDan23
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Ive seen worse tbh, but yeah not a great build. I wouldnt retire it though, with more speed/agility he wont be that bad.
 
homersdonut
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I would not care to post anything that specific.

If the player was gaining 1000 yards a season and scoring 15 TD's I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be looking for opinions.
 
Iversen
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Stop putting points in SAs and focus on speed/agility for a while then you should be able to turn it around .

Other than that not that bad a build .

Too low stamina imo , train it .
 
Mob-6
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Originally posted by homersdonut
I would not care to post anything that specific.

If the player was gaining 1000 yards a season and scoring 15 TD's I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be looking for opinions.


Then you are posting the equivalent of saying "My car is broken and there is a rattling noise, should I get rid of it?" Without stats we can't tell you. We don't know how many attempted catches, drops, yards, etc you are getting so how can we guess as to what needs to be fixed.

Why would you have him dump all his gear in agility? Sounds like a case of the blind leading the blind here.

I guess I agree with you for different reasons,but yes, you should retire your WR.

Last edited Sep 21, 2008 15:35:19
 
homersdonut
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by homersdonut

I would not care to post anything that specific.

If the player was gaining 1000 yards a season and scoring 15 TD's I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be looking for opinions.


Then you are posting the equivalent of saying "My car is broken and there is a rattling noise, should I get rid of it?" Without stats we can't tell you. We don't know how many attempted catches, drops, yards, etc you are getting so how can we guess as to what needs to be fixed.

Why would you have him dump all his gear in agility? Sounds like a case of the blind leading the blind here.

I guess I agree with you for different reasons,but yes, you should retire your WR.



Your troll like approach is appreciated - keep up the good work - forums need people like you to emphasize those who actually post constructively.
 
Viscount
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With the amount of points used I'm guessing he's a pretty high level WR (about level 30), if so I wouldn't really want to retire him considering how long it takes to get there.

Anyway, if his equipment is all over I'd suggest moving his equipment evenly between speed and agility and try getting the route run SA up.
Or he could sell all his equipment and try to get some good advanced equipment.
 
Djinnt
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Make sure he's placed at #2 on the DC, raise jumping and put all equipment into speed.

He's possession very clearly, and the only way to make it work is having him run short routes and making cuts extremely well, jumping over backs that will cover him close.

PS: You don't need to know performance results to know a good WR, what you've given is plenty of information. Performance usually tells you more about QB, O-line and competition.
 
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Make sure he's placed at #2 on the DC, raise jumping and put all equipment into speed.

He's possession very clearly, and the only way to make it work is having him run short routes and making cuts extremely well, jumping over backs that will cover him close.

PS: You don't need to know performance results to know a good WR, what you've given is plenty of information. Performance usually tells you more about QB, O-line and competition.


Thank you sir!
I thought I gave more than enough info...
 
Mob-6
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks

PS: You don't need to know performance results to know a good WR, what you've given is plenty of information. Performance usually tells you more about QB, O-line and competition.


Sure you do.

If performance is based more on QB, O-line and competition wouldn't you suggest this guy upgrade his team rather than his WR? I can tell what stats to build up based on production. High drops? Need more points in catching related attributes. Not being targeted? Need to work on speed or SAs that'll help you get open. You look at this stuff over the course of a season and that'll give you a good indication of where you need to put points.

 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
If performance is based more on QB, O-line and competition wouldn't you suggest this guy upgrade his team rather than his WR?

The aspects surrounding the WR define whether or not his stats matter to some great extent. Whether he does well beyond that is defined by himself. And yes, I suggest that any WR that wants phenomenal output have a phenomenal offense. It's basic logic. lol


Originally posted by Mob-6
High drops? Need more points in catching related attributes.

Unless your competition is always covering you, in which case you need more separation. So you raise speed to get that separation and find you no longer have enough catching to grab the ball, or you get tackled every time you make a catch. If your QB was more accurate this wouldn't be an issue. If he wasn't pressured by the LB during that 3 man blitz it wouldn't have been an issue, meaning if your O line was stronger it wouldn't be an issue. See what I'm getting at? Dozens of factors.

Originally posted by Mob-6
Not being targeted? Need to work on speed or SAs that'll help you get open.
Unless you're not on a pass heavy team, another WR on your team was more open or had lesser competition against him, your QB is favoring passes to a specific player that is or isn't you, the play simply wasn't a pass play because short yardage had to be guaranteed, etc etc
 
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Originally posted by Mob-6

If performance is based more on QB, O-line and competition wouldn't you suggest this guy upgrade his team rather than his WR?

The aspects surrounding the WR define whether or not his stats matter to some great extent. Whether he does well beyond that is defined by himself. And yes, I suggest that any WR that wants phenomenal output have a phenomenal offense. It's basic logic. lol


Originally posted by Mob-6

High drops? Need more points in catching related attributes.

Unless your competition is always covering you, in which case you need more separation. So you raise speed to get that separation and find you no longer have enough catching to grab the ball, or you get tackled every time you make a catch. If your QB was more accurate this wouldn't be an issue. If he wasn't pressured by the LB during that 3 man blitz it wouldn't have been an issue, meaning if your O line was stronger it wouldn't be an issue. See what I'm getting at? Dozens of factors.

Originally posted by Mob-6

Not being targeted? Need to work on speed or SAs that'll help you get open.
Unless you're not on a pass heavy team, another WR on your team was more open or had lesser competition against him, your QB is favoring passes to a specific player that is or isn't you, the play simply wasn't a pass play because short yardage had to be guaranteed, etc etc


You and all your logic , don't do that .

You're making their head hurt
 
WiSeIVIaN
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Put all equipment on agility, softcap jumping, than softcap agility.

Your guy has so many possession SA's, so you might as well try to use them. The agility will help you get seperation from cuts, and the jumping will help your jumping SA to do something, imo...

 
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Originally posted by Mob-6

If performance is based more on QB, O-line and competition wouldn't you suggest this guy upgrade his team rather than his WR?

The aspects surrounding the WR define whether or not his stats matter to some great extent. Whether he does well beyond that is defined by himself. And yes, I suggest that any WR that wants phenomenal output have a phenomenal offense. It's basic logic. lol


Originally posted by Mob-6

High drops? Need more points in catching related attributes.

Unless your competition is always covering you, in which case you need more separation. So you raise speed to get that separation and find you no longer have enough catching to grab the ball, or you get tackled every time you make a catch. If your QB was more accurate this wouldn't be an issue. If he wasn't pressured by the LB during that 3 man blitz it wouldn't have been an issue, meaning if your O line was stronger it wouldn't be an issue. See what I'm getting at? Dozens of factors.

Originally posted by Mob-6

Not being targeted? Need to work on speed or SAs that'll help you get open.
Unless you're not on a pass heavy team, another WR on your team was more open or had lesser competition against him, your QB is favoring passes to a specific player that is or isn't you, the play simply wasn't a pass play because short yardage had to be guaranteed, etc etc


So by your logic, the original poster needs to have all his attributes at the 8th softcap to even have a chance to overcome the play of his QB, O-line and opposing defense.
 
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