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Alright,

I am the starting FB for a team I GM. We have a backup FB who doesn't boost, but he is a more productive rsher. he has speed in the 30s (mine in 40s) and we both have strength and agility in the 50s. He has 70 broken tackles this season and more rushing yards per carry (more yards too).

We use energy settings to split playing time, and he is also the 3rd string HB. THe only thing he has that is better than me is a cople points in agility and 2 more points in "power thru."

If i have, lets say:
Strength: 56.85 Blocking: 40.8
Speed: 41.02 Tackling: 15.1
Agility: 55.38 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 20 Catching: 19.88
Stamina: 32.15 Carrying: 34.4
Vision: 36.01 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 26.39 Punting: 10

My vision and carrying is better than the backup who is a level 23. I am only the starter because I am a blocker too.

What gives. We go back and forth on who has better games, and there are some games that I only average 2 ypc and some where he only averages 2 ypc.

Any help is appreciated. And i just found out about this forum after 4 seasons.

--Dan

One thing that might come into effect is that when you sub out so do a lot of the defenders so the other fb is a better match up against the second string defenders.

I always thought about that. But i would never use it as an excuse. He is also the third string HB so he gets a lead blocker sometimes.

in the last scrimmage you had 5 runs but he had 2. the avg shows higher for him but your guy got a td. woot. gratz.

also he was in for one more play than your guy.

seems like your oc is splitting time between the fullbacks. didn't look at game film to see who was playing more against the starters but i presume your guy was.

i would worry less about avgs and look at total yds. avgs can drive you crazy. one of my wr lead the league he was in in yards and td but others on the team had higher avgs. he also was like #4 or 5 for drops.

a lot of things during games are based on surrounding circumstances, game plan, play execution, many many other factors.

for me, i am perfectly fine if my fb gets no carries or catches. i created him to be a blocking fullback. purely. however, i have made it a point to raise his catch and carry because at times he may be an offensive weapon.

We use the FBs on our team because our FBs are built for running and blocking. Our theory on FB blocking is just to get in front of the guy and hold the efender just long enough for the HB to get by. It is numerically impossible to be within even 15 speed of any HB we have.

Also our HBs don't boost. The FBs have better carrying so the fumbles are less with them. And since the carries are spread out, the chance of any one guy getting too demoralized by a big hit or TFL are slim.

I am the OC, so the FBs get anywhere from 20-35% of the touches depending on the gameplan. We like to ry to keep the FB runs at around 8 per FB per game. Our 2 HBs combined for over 200 yards and me and the other FB combined for 1000. So the run game is working. I am just trying to crack the code, because we have practically the same build. THe only difference is that the main dfference in levels with me and the backup are my points in blocking.

TSO, Thanks for the time to break that one down. YOu didn't need to do that scout, but I really appreciate it.

--Dan

It's not an excuse if he is going up against the backups. You can't judge by the numbers. Pick a game and look at who he's breaking tackles against and who's tackling you. If he's outperforming you when the competition is the same, put more points in either agility or power thru..

With a FB there are a lot of variables. A couple:

- Are you getting a lot of 3rd & short carries?
Your YPC might come down if you are only getting a yard or two in these situations, but as long as you convert that is all that matters.

- How well does the HB block during your runs?
A very fast HB may be able to make blocks for you, where as a slow HB probably will be of no help blocking.

It seems i get the bulk of my rhes in the first quarter, then it dwindles to third and short situations.

Our HB is very fast (both of them) and they block well. I guess its a bit of luck. But i think Bort bumped the SAs a bit last season and again this season...kinda to cancel the slow build guys he hates...since slow builds never have high trees until level 28 or so.

--Dan

As long as we are winning I don't care, but I was just wondering why its happening. Its kinda bad when an unboosting level 23 FB gets 76 broken tackles in a season and almost double your yards when you are a level 28. ANd the builds looks eerily similar. He did have 2 more Power thru and one more quick cut than i have, until now. He only has me beat by 1 PT now. I will report back with next game's stats to see if its better.

--Dan

so?

2 more points in power through as well as having a lead blocker when playing HB (i.e the first tackler to come up against him might be a safety as the LB is blocked, whereas your guy faces a strong MLB) can easily account for the difference in yards and broken tackles.

Heck on one of my teams in S3 we had a difference of 0.5 ypc between two HBs splitting carries. The one with the lower YPC (Let's call him A) was better in every key attribute, and in every SA except one; Dive for yardage. Where B had 4, A 1. That alone, considering that they were in on just 1-2 plays before subbing and behind the same O-line, made a 0.5 ypc difference, as well as 50% fewer TFLs and 50% more broken tackles. So the point of that? Don't underestimate SAs such as PT.

as people have already pointed out, there are a lot of other factors to consider.

assuming the builds are close, and the energy settings are set to rotate them frequently, you might still consider the advanced energy settings on when starters are used. for example, if you're the starter and you've checked off "use starters in the red zone", its likely you'll get a lot of goal line carries, which ends up with low yardage and almost zero broken tackles (although you get the TD!)

there are other quirks like that, and they will drastically affect player stats.

Well,

THis season we are about the same. I went back to last season where there was a broken tackle nerf at week 12. And it seems like we haven't broken as many tackles since then.

Looks like I need 80 strength like all the other fullbacks. Also adding speed to become almost as quick as my HBs I am blocking for. That may help with the broken tackles as well.

Thanks for all the help. Still looking for "First Step SA" advanced gear. I hate wasting the training points to keep refreshing the gear.

How many other people are "gambling" with their training points?
--Dan