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Anilingus
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What's the best way to build a run stuffing MLB/ILB? Let's say strength and agility are soft capped. What's best to work on next: speed, tackling, or vision? I would prioritize them:
1) vision
2) tackling
3) speed

but I've heard arguments for having speed as more important than even strength and agility. Do you think any of these attributes is more important than strength or agility?
 
Viscount
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I personally think vision is defintely the most important. After that as long as your tackling is at a reasonable level, focus on soft capping your speed. Then get his tackling up.
 
roake0331
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what should I work on next?
I am almost fast enough for my league. will vision help you cover a guy?


Strength: 24.65
Speed: 36 Tackling: 31.9
Agility: 27.65
 
d0mmy
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Strength is the most important attribute for stuffing the run, then probably agility and vision. Speed should only be considered for OLBs who have to cover the TE and WR at times.

Tackling really has no bearing on it, but it has to be high if you, well, want to actually tackle someone.
 
Rod Long
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Originally posted by d0mmy
Strength is the most important attribute for stuffing the run, then probably agility and vision. Speed should only be considered for OLBs who have to cover the TE and WR at times.

Tackling really has no bearing on it, but it has to be high if you, well, want to actually tackle someone.


Well if my LBs don't miss tackles with low strength, but are getting to the point of attack faster, then that is run stuffing.

How awesome are you if you STUFF a 7 yard inside run because you cannot (1)recognise the run [vision] (2) change direction towards the ball carrier and avoid blockers[agility] and most importantly (3) GET TO THE POINT OF ATTACK [speed].

Think of a Lower Leveled linebacker as a somewhat higher leveled SS and scale accordingly. 25 strength and 30 tackling will last you into early 20 levels for ALL linebacker positions.

If you want a good player, then focus on other areas than strength. If you want totally sweet scouting bars that tell you that you are ALLSOME and then don't do crap for your player in games, then pump strength.

Strength doesn't make you tackle with a higher frequency, doesn't make you get Tackles for losses, doesn't make you force more fumbles, doesn't get you sacks, doesn't defend passes, and doesn't inhibit a throw towards a TE. So tell me . . what does strength do for a linebacker?
 
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Interesting comments guys... I would love some feedback with my guy

Here is my Lvl 26 MLB... he made 98 tackles and missed 6... and this was against higher Lvl players... his team has moved up to the pro-league this coming season, so I want to make sure I head in the right direction.

Considering that, I have been set on getting my agility up towards 60, to help cut through holes and avoid blocks. But there is a idea that I should be working on softcapping tackling.

Thoughts?



Strength: 37.87 Blocking: 18.98
Speed: 73.76 Tackling: 35.87
Agility: 50.53 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 20.83 Catching: 21.37
Stamina: 33.54 Carrying: 8
Vision: 48.64 Kicking: 7
Confidence: 29.27 Punting: 9

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Dougster
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Originally posted by d0mmy
Strength is the most important attribute for stuffing the run, then probably agility and vision. Speed should only be considered for OLBs who have to cover the TE and WR at times.

Tackling really has no bearing on it, but it has to be high if you, well, want to actually tackle someone.


+1 Strength is number one for MLB Here's my lvl 26, 108 reg season TKLS.

SA = HHA 3 across

Strength: 61.02 Blocking: 26.14
Speed: 37.12 Tackling: 43.44
Agility: 37.39 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 27.06 Catching: 16
Stamina: 37.21 Carrying: 9
Vision: 56.13 Kicking: 8
Confidence:26.57 Punting: 10
 
Rod Long
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Originally posted by balony_pony16
Interesting comments guys... I would love some feedback with my guy

Here is my Lvl 26 MLB... he made 98 tackles and missed 6... and this was against higher Lvl players... his team has moved up to the pro-league this coming season, so I want to make sure I head in the right direction.

Considering that, I have been set on getting my agility up towards 60, to help cut through holes and avoid blocks. But there is a idea that I should be working on softcapping tackling.

Thoughts?



I really like his build. Its hard to get tackles on a good team with a good defensive line. I elected to put more points into tackling as well. Not sure exactly how intense training will unfold but I would concentrate on jumping/catching with training next season.

AS for the agility, try buying another piece of equipment for agility and wear the speed piece and the agility piece in different ones to see how your player's ability is affected. Thats a 4 point agility swing for you there, and it doesn't cost you skill points.

 
KingDan23
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Originally posted by Rod Long
If you want a good player, then focus on other areas than strength. If you want totally sweet scouting bars that tell you that you are ALLSOME and then don't do crap for your player in games, then pump strength.

Strength doesn't make you tackle with a higher frequency, doesn't make you get Tackles for losses, doesn't make you force more fumbles, doesn't get you sacks, doesn't defend passes, and doesn't inhibit a throw towards a TE. So tell me . . what does strength do for a linebacker?


Wrong all over my friend. My lvl 32 LB has been strength heavy since the start of his career. As a late booster every season he reached his peak in the playoffs (hardest opponents) and check out his production. Strength is massive for run stuffing as you dont have to avoid blockers you can just run through them straight at the HB. It also definitely does help with sacks as it allows you to break the O-Line through the middle. Trust me on this, strength is a lot more important than you think.

EDIT: also, check your THREE LBs total career sacks added together. Makes for some very interesting reading imo.
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Jimbenbroo
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my MLB is LVL 29 has had over 220 tackles in the last two years playing AAA and only has 36 strength
 
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only thing i could think strength could help is breaking blocks

speed will help you reach the ball carrier faster , less yards gained for him

agility will help you cover alot better , and help you get elusive back with their constant wicked jukes lol

vision will help you see the play develop better (get u in the right place faster) , and make you take a better route on the ball carrier,

all those makeing it so u wont have to break blocks if u can get there before the blockers do

i may not be too experienced GBL wise , but it just makes sence , even as a run stuffer , you still have to get to the player , not let him get to u
 
KingDan23
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Yeah well obviously you have to make your linebacker mobile, but if you watch where your MLB starts in a run play and where he needs to get, the most direct route is through the Linemen rather than around them. The extra Str allows you to bypass the linemen and head straight for the HB, whereas an all speed-agility LB would opt to go around them/get caught up in the middle. Not saying that speedy LBs arent good, because they are - but strength LBs can be just as effective, if not more, if built properly.
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