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What would be a good level for centers and guards in the 20's levels? I know pulling guards would need slightly higher vision probably than left guards. Is 25 to 30 sufficient or with Bort's emphasis on secondary attributes this season does vision need to be higher.

Anyone?

Thanks.
 
ktwentland
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even tho your my enemy, my centers vision is at 50 and im training his agility which is at 32.24. he doing pretty well this season.
 
DiMo28
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left guards pull now too. Most important thing about vision is being able to pick up blitzes or cover for a blown block. Also, will help the player recognize how the D-line will attack. For a guard, I'd say mid-30's minimum.
 
irishdolfan
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My level 22 C has 30 Agility and 30 Vison. I plan on improving this int he future but I am training Confidence at the moment and will be putting my next 5SP into Line General
 
powerslacker
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Originally posted by Rip U. Rheadoff
What would be a good level for centers and guards in the 20's levels? I know pulling guards would need slightly higher vision probably than left guards. Is 25 to 30 sufficient or with Bort's emphasis on secondary attributes this season does vision need to be higher.

Anyone?

Thanks.


I'm working on softcapping my vision by level 30.

With vision at 36 now, I'm a blitz pickup machine.
 
chunky04
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I'm thinking my C's Vision needs to be higher.

Unless there's some other reason for this play happening twice:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=108227&pbp_id=6209649
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=108227&pbp_id=6203956

Could be the LG Vision as well.
 
powerslacker
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Originally posted by chunky04
I'm thinking my C's Vision needs to be higher.

Unless there's some other reason for this play happening twice:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=108227&pbp_id=6209649
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=108227&pbp_id=6203956

Could be the LG Vision as well.


Your C is blocking the NT just fine.


Speed LBs might just be blowing the play up. I didn't see any huge blocking errors.
 
DavidD458
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Your C is doing exactly what he's supposed to.
 
chunky04
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I'm more thinking the C seeing the LB coming and dropping off the NT to pick him up. Is there any way to stop those LBs getting through that hole? Is it the LG seeing him coming and deciding not to pull? Or do I really need to just hope the CPU doesn't call and left side pitches?
 
Mike544612
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No the RT was supposed to pick him up on the first play. On the second the LB just blew it up and made a good play. I personally think C dont need very much vision at all.
 
chunky04
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So the ROT should pickup the LB, the TE should get the LDE the ROT left behind, and the pulling RG should get the OLB is how its supposed to work I take it?
 


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