Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Nixx
Originally posted by d1sregard

Can you link that replay with TWO TEs non goal line?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89175&pbp_id=1229204

Third and short, I wonder if they set it to be a short pass.

The one I've most recently seen is a 2nd and 10 situation...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=107894&pbp_id=1706520

The singleback 2TE formation gets used, but rarely. (Also...a little tip: Watch all the singleback 2TE formations you can find....there is something in common among all of them)

I've yet to see the Iform big though.

Originally posted by Bonerific
FB determines SS in majority football. seriously? because in madden and ncaa, the SS follows the TE to be ready to cover.

TE determines strongside, not FB.

Originally posted by SyedAshrafulla
Originally posted by Bonerific

FB determines SS in majority football. seriously? because in madden and ncaa, the SS follows the TE to be ready to cover.



Thats because you must play Cover 1 man plays when that happens. For all intensive purposes FB determines strong side (SS) and therefore the shift going the opposite way planed.

TBH Its' about time we had a good play on weakside. Even the weakside passing game sucks.

Originally posted by Hampe
Originally posted by Bonerific

FB determines strongside, Not in GLB it doesn't. On the weak I formation, the TE's side is the strong side. Based on my input/output %s, I can say that with 100% certainty.



I am pretty sure that is the way it is in real life as well. Strong side is determined by which side of the C the most players are lined up. That's why I-form Weak is a formation where the FB lines up on the weak side of the O-line and I-Form strong is where the FB lines up on the strong side of the O-line.

Originally posted by ฿ones
Originally posted by SyedAshrafulla

Originally posted by Bonerific


FB determines SS in majority football. seriously? because in madden and ncaa, the SS follows the TE to be ready to cover.



Thats because you must play Cover 1 man plays when that happens. For all intensive purposes FB determines strong side (SS) and therefore the shift going the opposite way planed.

TBH Its' about time we had a good play on weakside. Even the weakside passing game sucks.

This is mostly false.

In almost every level of football, if there is a TE, that is the strong side (SS) to everyone except the DBs, maybe a LB.

The passing strength (PS) is determined by which side has the most WRs on it, so if there is 1 TE on the offensive right and 2 WRs on the offensive left, the offensive right is the strong side (SS) the offensive left is the passing strength (PS).

The ONLY time the FB is used to determine strength as a rule rather then an exception is if the OL is balanced or if the gameplan calls for keying on the FB (e.g. opponent runs 80+% to the side the FB lines up on).

Originally posted by Hampe
The singleback 2TE formation gets used, but rarely. (Also...a little tip: Watch all the singleback 2TE formations you can find....there is something in common among all of them)

I've yet to see the Iform big though.

2 TE = single back big

big I = no TE, 2 WR strongside (that formation caused a lot of problems, for the nickel defense would line up 2 CBs weakside... I haven't seen it at all this season and maybe Bort disabled it)

In RL football it all depends on the coordinator. Most DC call towards a TE. If some tendency can be picked up on a FB, then they might call it to a fullback. But many offenses don't even have FBs anymore and if they do, the majority of the time they are in an I with no strong/weak shade. If you have a different strong call with the line, LBs and DBs how can you coordinate stunts, blitzes and coverages?

Originally posted by GIEFF
TE determines strongside, not FB.

Agreed. In a 2TE set you'd default to the FB.

Originally posted by baumusc
Originally posted by Hampe

Originally posted by Bonerific


FB determines strongside, Not in GLB it doesn't. On the weak I formation, the TE's side is the strong side. Based on my input/output %s, I can say that with 100% certainty.



I am pretty sure that is the way it is in real life as well. Strong side is determined by which side of the C the most players are lined up. That's why I-form Weak is a formation where the FB lines up on the weak side of the O-line and I-Form strong is where the FB lines up on the strong side of the O-line.That's true. I've never played for a coach who determined the strong side using the FB.

Originally posted by RAPB
Originally posted by Hampe

The singleback 2TE formation gets used, but rarely. (Also...a little tip: Watch all the singleback 2TE formations you can find....there is something in common among all of them)

I've yet to see the Iform big though.

2 TE = single back big

big I = no TE, 2 WR strongside (that formation caused a lot of problems, for the nickel defense would line up 2 CBs weakside... I haven't seen it at all this season and maybe Bort disabled it)Uhhh.....not in most cases it isn't. Iform big is I formation with one WR and one TE on each side of the line. But you could be right, it could be that Bort named Iform twins as Iform big.

baumusc is right. If the FB determined the strong side, then how can there be such a thing as a Weak I formation? The strong side is the side the TE is on.

Originally posted by ฿ones
Originally posted by Nixx

Originally posted by Bonerific


FB determines strongside...

In real life doesn't the TE determine strongside? Of course in GLB the TE always lines up on the same side (I sure hope we get to change that eventually).



FB determines SS in majority football.
Pretty certain that's inaccurate.