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I don't know if anyone's done this yet, so I figured I would.

I made level 1 CBs and made sure the attribute I tested was at 10. I then checked the 3 player bars (overall, pass defense, tackling). Then I put all 15 SP into 1 attribute and re-checked the 3 player bars to find out what they effected.

It's not an exact science by any means, but it's something to go on. (And everyone here might have known all this anyway).

Vision- tackling bar increased 3 points
Catching- no change
Speed- pass defense bar increased 3 points
Strength- tackling bar increased 3 points
Tackling- tackling bar increased 6 points
Confidence- no change
Jumping- no change
Agility- tackling bar increased 3 points

Each CB started off 12/15/12 overall/pass defense/tackling, but like I said before, this is not a failproof experiment. I was surprised with some of the findings though.

huh...i always thought jumping, catching, and agility would significantly help the pass defense bar...but theres no way speed is the only factor...

Yeah, I agree. I have a couple of opinions on this.

1. The 15 points + 10 it started with was not enough to trigger an increase in the bar. However, maybe 16 points would have been.

2. Maybe some attributes need to be increased in conjunction with something else. Perhaps once speed is 20, if I bumped the agility from 10 to 25, it would have increased the pass defense bar.

I agree that speed can not be the only factor for the pass defense bar. My top CB is not what I'd call excessively fast, but he's got a green pass defense bar.

Additionally, I believe that many of those stats will still help pass defense, even if for some reason the bar is set to not improve when jumping, catching, etc. is enhanced.

How about coming at this from the other end. Do we have anybody here who has the pass defense bar in the green? if so, they could tell us what their levels are and give us an idea of what combination works.

my FS has a green passing bar, and i will say that speed does help greatly.

Originally posted by wickster33
How about coming at this from the other end. Do we have anybody here who has the pass defense bar in the green? if so, they could tell us what their levels are and give us an idea of what combination works.

Sure, I'll come at it from the other end. My pass defense bar is in the green at level 23. I'm not posting my build to make it public for everyone, but speed has played a large part in my green bar.

where do you get to see the actual points? I just see a bar but no numbers measuring it.

Originally posted by mmuhr
where do you get to see the actual points? I just see a bar but no numbers measuring it.

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Originally posted by jdupuy3
Originally posted by wickster33

How about coming at this from the other end. Do we have anybody here who has the pass defense bar in the green? if so, they could tell us what their levels are and give us an idea of what combination works.

Sure, I'll come at it from the other end. My pass defense bar is in the green at level 23. I'm not posting my build to make it public for everyone, but speed has played a large part in my green bar.


Can't blame you for that. If speed is one of the main contributors, what are the secondary attributes. You'd think they would be agility and vision, but they don't seem to be moving the bar much. Is it something sneaky like jumping?

I don't know if this clears anything up or not but my Pass Defense Bar jumped 3 points when I dumped 3 SP into Agility and 2 SP in Vision in the past.

i know as a fact that confidence effects it at least a little

Originally posted by wickster33
Originally posted by jdupuy3

Originally posted by wickster33


How about coming at this from the other end. Do we have anybody here who has the pass defense bar in the green? if so, they could tell us what their levels are and give us an idea of what combination works.

Sure, I'll come at it from the other end. My pass defense bar is in the green at level 23. I'm not posting my build to make it public for everyone, but speed has played a large part in my green bar.


Can't blame you for that. If speed is one of the main contributors, what are the secondary attributes. You'd think they would be agility and vision, but they don't seem to be moving the bar much. Is it something sneaky like jumping?


Agility is my highest attribute other than speed. Vision is next. I don't think there's anything sneaky about my build.

Originally posted by King Henrik
i know as a fact that confidence effects it at least a little


This comes as a surprise to me. I know Confidence is very important, but I was always under the impression that it affected your stats in-game. I thought it had no impact on your status before the game started. Anyone have confirmation on this?

Confidence affects the scouting bars for a lot of positions (QB, FB, DT, DE, LB, SS, and FS, that I've confirmed personally).