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looking for some advice on playing cpu teams. We have what i think is a pretty competitive team, overall. We are struggling against the all or mostly all cpu teams. Defensively we seem to play fairly well.
The issue is on offense: We can't get anything going. A lot of bad passes or int's, things I don't see against human teams. I understand we're not going to win all these games by a blow out but it's hard to look at the game details and see a lot of 3 and outs or turnovers etc. when I don't see them in other games. I am fairly new at Oc'ing so this may just be on my AI and the plays we run. I have no idea. Not looking for a some kind of cheat the system advice but maybe there's something I'm doing wrong that can be adjusted.
Any help would be appreciated.
Edited by mjwags on Dec 29, 2022 09:36:49
 
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Originally posted by mjwags
looking for some advice on playing cpu teams. We have what i think is a pretty competitive team, overall. We are struggling against the all or mostly all cpu teams. Defensively we seem to play fairly well.
The issue is on offense: We can't get anything going. A lot of bad passes or int's, things I don't see against human teams. I understand we're not going to win all these games by a blow out but it's hard to look at the game details and see a lot of 3 and outs or turnovers etc. when I don't see them in other games. I am fairly new at Oc'ing so this may just be on my AI and the plays we run. I have no idea. Not looking for a some kind of cheat the system advice but maybe there's something I'm doing wrong that can be adjusted.
Any help would be appreciated.


which team is it for ?

Usually certain CPU teams play better than advertised in Regular where they may once have been a competitive user owned team. When they revert to cpu the AIs are usually left in place as current and are way ahead of the usual cpu stuff. Its also adviseable to have a quick look at their rosters as it has been known for over achieving levelled dots to be on cpu teams
 
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Originally posted by zz man
which team is it for ?

Usually certain CPU teams play better than advertised in Regular where they may once have been a competitive user owned team. When they revert to cpu the AIs are usually left in place as current and are way ahead of the usual cpu stuff. Its also adviseable to have a quick look at their rosters as it has been known for over achieving levelled dots to be on cpu teams


I have heard that before with these teams that were once human owned. I'm not on here 24/7 but I am everyday and I do some homework for these games. I know what seems to be working against the human owned teams are not against CPU. I just seem to notice a lot of "bad passes" and int's I normally wouldn't see. It doesn't seem like anything I try with the offense is working. We end up with a lot of 3 and outs, and that just doesn't seem "normal" for me.

 
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Originally posted by mjwags
I have heard that before with these teams that were once human owned. I'm not on here 24/7 but I am everyday and I do some homework for these games. I know what seems to be working against the human owned teams are not against CPU. I just seem to notice a lot of "bad passes" and int's I normally wouldn't see. It doesn't seem like anything I try with the offense is working. We end up with a lot of 3 and outs, and that just doesn't seem "normal" for me.



cpus usually appear to be weaker against the run than pass.. Mt advice would be to use a separate OAI for cpus and run on 1st and 2nd down.. ! inside and 1 outside... Set youre 3rd down inputs as normal... Check the D roster and being cpus there will probably be Pass Rush DEs... Run O/Tkl to the w/s where they usually line up will be effective if you are at least 120 days old etc
 
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I would also add that, while some think it's silly, scout those CPU teams before you play them. I swear... every season you'll find a post about 'overpowered CPU teams' but, when pressed, they 'assumed' victory because... CPU I look for anomalies... amazing stats where there shouldn't be... a defense that seems to shut down almost everyone... a QB that lights it up no matter what the competition... something 'odd' or out of place. If I think it's worth it, I'll even investigate a CPU's game log and if I see where they played a different managed team and either beat them or gave them fits in a close loss... then I'll look that game over... big time... and treat the CPU team just like it's owned and managed. Never assume anything in GLB.
 
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appreciate the feedback. I'll try to adjust my AI a little and see what happens.
 
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did anyone, including the op, actually watch the game? c'mon, if you are losing to cpu teams, your team sucks and you need to take a long, honest look at why your team sucks.

in no particular order:
- NO, your defense did NOT play well. you gave up 42 minutes of TOP, including a 7 minute drive in the 1st, and a 8 minute drive in the 4th. you gave up 4 yards a rush. and you couldnt consistently stop their passing game. look at each defensive play and figure out what went wrong. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3114773&pbp_id=634416 stop the play just as the qb starts his throw, and you'll see 3 wide open receivers. he has his choice of nickel and diming you to death, because your defenders start the play playing so far off the LOS. IF you are going to play a 3-4, then you'd better have some LBs in run support.

- your ST needs some serious attention if you are giving up that yardage to a group of CPUs. a human team should always destroy a cpu team on ST. bort didnt understand his own st so cpu teams tend to play the wrong players in the wrong slots.

- in the immortal words of an asshole that shall remain nameless, "fix your dots". 1st, you only have 50 players. the cpu penalty only kicks in at 10 so sign those 5 cpu players. i see players that are pretty far below the rest of the team. with a few exceptions for specialty players, a level 49 has business being on a team with level 55+s. without seeing the builds and just watching the plays, i'd say that many of your builds are less than good. your offensive line could not move their defensive line at all. do all your players have their VAs? do they complement each other or does each player do their own thing?

- fix your roster. you have no blocking tackles and the blocking FB obviously didnt cut it. do you really want your worst players on the field on 2nd or 3rd and long? i am fairly certain a cou player at that level would play better than a human dot that is 6-9 levels behind. (hint: the more you pay a cpu, the better that they they generally play). and if you are only going to rotate 3 at guards and/or tackles, then they all must be very good, otherwise, get that 4th one.

- one of the few times that i agree with theo, yes, cpu teams can be scouted. they retain the same AIs from their last human owner. therefore, they will play the same from game to game. personally, i believe that they keep their tagging too, altho i have no way to prove that, other than i've seen some cpu teams completely shut down rQBs. so i always checked to see if a cpu team was ever human owned against my current roster.

- i take it from the play calling that you do not use the adjust ai setting. i always loved it.

- know that you are in the crappiest time during the player build. your players should be switching over to light training in order to gain BTs and balance out their builds. CPUs are generally more well rounded at this stage. your QB is completing less than 50% for the season, so why are you running a pass heavy offense this season? watch your drop balls which tend to indicate builds that are out of balance.
 
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Welcome back guppy, it has been too long!!
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
did anyone, including the op, actually watch the game? c'mon, if you are losing to cpu teams, your team sucks and you need to take a long, honest look at why your team sucks.

in no particular order:
- NO, your defense did NOT play well. you gave up 42 minutes of TOP, including a 7 minute drive in the 1st, and a 8 minute drive in the 4th. you gave up 4 yards a rush. and you couldnt consistently stop their passing game. look at each defensive play and figure out what went wrong. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3114773&pbp_id=634416 stop the play just as the qb starts his throw, and you'll see 3 wide open receivers. he has his choice of nickel and diming you to death, because your defenders start the play playing so far off the LOS. IF you are going to play a 3-4, then you'd better have some LBs in run support.

- your ST needs some serious attention if you are giving up that yardage to a group of CPUs. a human team should always destroy a cpu team on ST. bort didnt understand his own st so cpu teams tend to play the wrong players in the wrong slots.

- in the immortal words of an asshole that shall remain nameless, "fix your dots". 1st, you only have 50 players. the cpu penalty only kicks in at 10 so sign those 5 cpu players. i see players that are pretty far below the rest of the team. with a few exceptions for specialty players, a level 49 has business being on a team with level 55+s. without seeing the builds and just watching the plays, i'd say that many of your builds are less than good. your offensive line could not move their defensive line at all. do all your players have their VAs? do they complement each other or does each player do their own thing?

- fix your roster. you have no blocking tackles and the blocking FB obviously didnt cut it. do you really want your worst players on the field on 2nd or 3rd and long? i am fairly certain a cou player at that level would play better than a human dot that is 6-9 levels behind. (hint: the more you pay a cpu, the better that they they generally play). and if you are only going to rotate 3 at guards and/or tackles, then they all must be very good, otherwise, get that 4th one.

- one of the few times that i agree with theo, yes, cpu teams can be scouted. they retain the same AIs from their last human owner. therefore, they will play the same from game to game. personally, i believe that they keep their tagging too, altho i have no way to prove that, other than i've seen some cpu teams completely shut down rQBs. so i always checked to see if a cpu team was ever human owned against my current roster.

- i take it from the play calling that you do not use the adjust ai setting. i always loved it.

- know that you are in the crappiest time during the player build. your players should be switching over to light training in order to gain BTs and balance out their builds. CPUs are generally more well rounded at this stage. your QB is completing less than 50% for the season, so why are you running a pass heavy offense this season? watch your drop balls which tend to indicate builds that are out of balance.


Thanks for the feedback:

In this age range it's been very hard to get O-lineman. We signed a few under leveled because I assumed it was better to have a human player than a CPU guy. Their builds are good which I assumed help as well.

I know the defense needs some work and that's being addressed it's been the lack of offensive production that had me concerned. We generally pass a lot and has worked vs human teams but not CPU.

I thought our ST was set up pretty well, but from what your saying it's obviously not. any suggestions there?

Also not sure what you mean by Adjust AI setting. Do you mean the in game auto adjust? It is set up but maybe at a slower adjust rate than needed.

 
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"Fix your dots," according to the immortal words of a jackass whose name shall not be spoken. To begin, you have a total of only fifty participants. As the CPU penalty doesn't take effect until 10, you should sign those five CPU players. I notice several players that are a significant step below the rest of the squad. A player with level 49 should not be placed on a squad with level 55 or above members, with a few notable exceptions for specialized specialists. https://basketrandom.io
 
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