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cevan
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would like to make an int cb next season.
was thinking:
101 speed
90 agility
55 catching
90 vision
70 jump
40 conf
60 stamina
tackling?
strength?
Can I get some help here?
 
aaasahi
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reverse catching and jumping
60 tackling, strength as high as you can when you reach those target.
 
Theo Wizzago
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I agree with aaasahi. The numbers you posted are good for a deflection CB but not so great for an INT style. Also, if you really want a bit more advantage in your jump, make your dot as tall as feasible. A 5 foot person has to jump a LOT more than a 6 foot person does to obtain the same ending height.
 
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Harold Norton (Lv. 79 CB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 170lbs

Strength: 50
Speed: 154.1 (+55)
Agility: 89.1 (+3)
Jumping: 78.1
Stamina: 61.26
Vision: 89.1
Confidence: 40.26
Catching: 77.26
Tackling: 61.26

Special Abilities
Swat Ball: 5
Sticky Hands: 9
Superior Vision: 1 <<<<< I wish I had added some points here.
Smooth Operator: 1
Shutdown Coverage: 1

Make tackle chance: +15%
Deflect ball chance: +15%
Avoid fake chance: +15%
Intercept chance: +21%
 
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Super Vision made a Huge difference in my man coverage CB's









 
cevan
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Thanks guys
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
A 5 foot person has to jump a LOT more than a 6 foot person does to obtain the same ending height.


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Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by Catullus16
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So you're trying to reach 10 feet in total height of leap. Yes... I know the difference is only a foot between the shorter guy and the taller guy but as long as the weight to height ratio is the same for both, the amount of effort it takes the 5 foot guy to reach 10 feet in elevation is significantly less than what is required of the 6 foot guy. If you want a good idea, Professional Beach Volleyball players... go find me a WORLD CLASS player that is less that 5 foot 5 inches tall. Sand makes it very hard to jump high so pretty much the only players on the Pro circuit are 6 feet minimum. Even the ladies are tall (and pretty too).
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
So you're trying to reach 10 feet in total height of leap. Yes... I know the difference is only a foot between the shorter guy and the taller guy but as long as the weight to height ratio is the same for both, the amount of effort it takes the 5 foot guy to reach 10 feet in elevation is significantly less than what is required of the 6 foot guy.

Orly?
http://www.fun2video.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/long-neck-africa-amazing-funny.jpg

Fwiw.... For a different perspective,
I'd suggest making the player slower with less agility to attract more targets. If he covers too tight, he'll get avoided because of how QB targeting works (distance from defender being the primary factor).
I'd get jumping, vision and speed all in the 90s and shoot for 80+ catching. Hit agility 5th and leave just enough time to hit 60 Stam. Tackling and strength will suffer, but that what's called "a business decision" as Deion would say.

Ffs being a smart ass on a phone is hard
Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 28, 2016 00:35:53
Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 28, 2016 00:32:46
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Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 28, 2016 00:08:46
Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 27, 2016 23:56:28
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes

Orly?
http://www.fun2video.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/long-neck-africa-amazing-funny.jpg

Fwiw.... For a different perspective,
I'd suggest making the player slower with less agility to attract more targets. If he covers too tight, he'll get avoided because of how QB targeting works (distance from defender being the primary factor).
I'd get jumping, vision and speed all in the 90s and shoot for 80+ catching. Hit agility 5th and leave just enough time to hit 60 Stam. Tackling and strength will suffer, but that what's called "a business decision" as Deion would say.

Ffs being a smart ass on a phone is hard


Why make him slower and less agile? Why not just adjust your coverage cushion to attract more targets?
 
TJ Spikes
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So you can get more jumping and catching for a larger radius to interact with the ball. There's no VA for interceptions specifically, but you could take attribute VAs. By sacrificing max speed and shaving a little agility you could hit triple digits in Jumping and Vision with VA support. Depending on team needs, you could take Catching into the mid to upper 90s as well.
Edited by TJ Spikes on Apr 28, 2016 10:17:22
 
Theo Wizzago
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I will say this about TJ's take... I've done it myself with very good results. I reckoned that most QB's don't have a long time to wait for receivers to get open before they're toast. So I made my CB as tall as possible and only pushed speed to 98-ish (natural... of course the EQ was speed to make him at least fast enough) and concentrated the points I didn't spend on pushing speed to 105 natural into jumping and other skills needed. Realize I wasn't going for a PURE INT CB but a pass defender instead... and it worked extremely well. I got loads of PD's... and the occasional INT. I suspect that had I put more into catching I could've easily turned it into a successful INT build. You can't be stupid and become TOO slow to keep up but with just a little less speed I was able to be in position to deflect passes just fine. The obvious counter to this is to build a O-line that can keep your QB upright and un-hurried for 5 or more seconds and set the QB's throwing to 'lofty' as much as possible... then hope to drop rainbows over the shoulders of your receivers on deep routes... thereby making deflections or INT's almost impossible. I'm not sure you can do that though with the quality of pass rushers being built now.

As for VA's, a lot of INT's come from deflections so Long Reach is a must have.
 
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You guys are talking about "lower speed"...the dot I posted above has 99 speed. I get what you are saying, and I agree with it to some degree. My dot is a 4 AEQ player, and the skills are a little lower than they would be with 3 AEQ, but I like all of the % bonuses I have.

However, I think that a dot without 60 tackling and 48 strength is a liability on the field. You can't have a dot out there that will miss tons of tackles. Deion can make all of the business decisions he wants, but he doesn't DC in WL. I think most of the WL DCs will have the same concerns.
 
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Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors
You guys are talking about "lower speed"...the dot I posted above has 99 speed. I get what you are saying, and I agree with it to some degree. My dot is a 4 AEQ player, and the skills are a little lower than they would be with 3 AEQ, but I like all of the % bonuses I have.

However, I think that a dot without 60 tackling and 48 strength is a liability on the field. You can't have a dot out there that will miss tons of tackles. Deion can make all of the business decisions he wants, but he doesn't DC in WL. I think most of the WL DCs will have the same concerns.


Truth. When you pursue specialty builds they're a lot of fun but most types won't become world league dots. I actually love building things differently just to see what I can do. Not every one is a success but all are fun. Still, I think there is room for specialty dots in world leagues but mostly as 'specialist' types that only play on certain down and distances.
 


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