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El Cunado
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If a defensive player forces a turnover and collects the ball via fumble and/or int. Is he now considered an offensive player and any offensive SA's now fire (spin ect)? Just curious.
 
Bane
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Yea I would imagine, cause you can build a DE as a kick returner and have spin(ect) fire

I wouldn't waste SP's on it with my own dots though

Unless I eventually get around to making a team of 55 punters
 
El Cunado
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Thanks, it's something I've debated "testing" but wasn't too optimistic on it's effect.
 
RiverRat2
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Most players fall down right after an INT so I don't know how effective it will be.
Edited by RiverRat2 on Jun 9, 2014 17:59:54
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by RiverRat2
Most players fall down right after an INT so I don't know how effective it will be.


I've always wondered if having Balance beefed up any would help that. It SHOULD... but I don't know if it does (even though it's mostly tied to blocking/being blocked).
 
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Most CB's have high AGI you would think that would help.
I think it is a nerf in the sim so that the CB's don't pick 6 - 50 % of the time.
They are usually almost wide open. They should be able to return 10-20 yards every time but it does not happen that way.
 
DarkPraetor
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I've always wondered if having Balance beefed up any would help that. It SHOULD... but I don't know if it does (even though it's mostly tied to blocking/being blocked).


I'm pretty sure it doesn't help. I mean sure, logic dictates that "balance" would help in any situation, but this SA was created for the sole purpose of blocking interactions. I doubt it's coded to work on other things like INTs, reception, being tackled, etc.
 
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Originally posted by RiverRat2
Most CB's have high AGI you would think that would help.
I think it is a nerf in the sim so that the CB's don't pick 6 - 50 % of the time.
They are usually almost wide open. They should be able to return 10-20 yards every time but it does not happen that way.


This. There was a time when a lot of INTs ended as pick 6, so the userbase complained about it and now almost every INT or Fum recovery is returned for 0 yards.
 
RyanCane26
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Originally posted by RiverRat2
Most players fall down right after an INT so I don't know how effective it will be.


I've seen some CBs break a good amount of tackles on their way to a pick 6 though too
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Originally posted by RiverRat2

Most players fall down right after an INT so I don't know how effective it will be.


I've seen some CBs break a good amount of tackles on their way to a pick 6 though too


Like in the OPT vs. SCM playoff game ? It's probably jumping that breaks them diving tackles (and 8 tackling obv).
 
MileHighShoes
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Just so you guys know.
The roll to stay on your feet after an INT is based on Carrying.
Yep... that's retarded, and it's why most every Defender built for INT's falls down just as often as those who aren't built for INT's. But it;s how Bort decided to solve the problem of too many pick sixes back in S...23? There were a number of good solutions suggested to at least reward agents who made dots who focused highly on catching... but they all were ignored in favor of basing the roll on an attribute that no agent in their right mind would invest in on their defensive dots.

Agility has nothing to do with it.
Catching has nothing to do with it.
Jumping has nothing to do with it.
Vision has nothing to do with it.
Strength has nothing to do with it.

The entire roll is based on the 8 points your defender has in carrying. And that's it. Thank Bort.
 
DiMo28
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According to Bort, not falling down after an interception is based on Catching.
 
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From page 5 in the 6/8/2013 Live Q & A Thread: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5084141&page=5

Originally posted by DiMo28
What will help to keep defensive players from falling down when they intercept the ball? Does carrying help at all?

Originally posted by Bort
catching!
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by DiMo28
From page 5 in the 6/8/2013 Live Q & A Thread: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5084141&page=5

Originally posted by DiMo28
What will help to keep defensive players from falling down when they intercept the ball? Does carrying help at all?

Originally posted by Bort
catching!


Oh yeah! Q&A. I seem to remember those from many many years ago. Suppose those should be dusted off every other year or so just so we don't forget what we use to have.
 


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