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dusk2k3
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Originally posted by GP1
Originally posted by thunderdoozer

They just need to stop creating leagues all together. There are too many teams for everyone to remain competitive at a high level.

I think there should be leagues based upon how old a player is...

1 year olds play D League...

1-3 year olds play high school

3-5 year olds can play college

5+ can play pros. There is a minor league level and major league level.

No movement up or down for teams. Owners at each level will only be allowed to recruit guys of certain ages, and they will have to recruit more often because they won't be able to keep the same guys 10-12 seasons.

That's the best solution, IMHO.



Not yet, it isn't. We're only in the 3rd season. Almost everyone would be in the 'high school' league


GP hit the nail on the head. Another problem is that, right now the max years for a player is 10 seasons. This means we have to wait at least 7 more seasons for the people at the pro level to drop out and make room for people to move up.

I think this is the vision Bort had in the first place but it will take a little over a year for things to start working that way.
 
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Well, there's 16 BBBs and every other division has 8. Maybe they should drop the bottom half of all teams and form 8 BBBs and 8 BBs.
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dusk2k3
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Originally posted by GP1
Well, there's 16 BBBs and every other division has 8. Maybe they should drop the bottom half of all teams and form 8 BBBs and 8 BBs.


That could be a viable option. It would take some shuffling if they wanted to move the weaker teams into those BB divisions.
 
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Don't be afraid to look for a team in another League that would be willing to trade leagues with you too. From what I understand they are still allowing that as long as both teams agree. And I would imagine you could easily find a team wanting into the USA leagues.
 
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TDs suggestion is no solution at all. I'll be damned if I want to change teams every few levels I gain. The answer is simply this, people should be penalized for gutting teams and GMs should stop releasing players when an owner goes MIA. There is a high demand for teams, no CPU will have control of a team for more than 24 hours. Owners should also make a greater effort to recruit quality players instead of going after the highest lvl players they can find and then giving up when they are turned down. Hell, some owners don't recruit at all and then complain about the lack of parity in their league.

Swampgator had a good suggestion for you, barring that, try getting players that really want to start and are buried in the depth chart. Badlands lost a few quality players to that kind of thing. Make it appealing to be a part of your squad, give them a reason to want to be a part of it.

W/L record isn't everything and is easily improved. My other team played a squad that had a 0-32 record coming into the season and it's owner abandoned them in the first days. When we played them we only scored about 50 points on them. Yes they still lost but my point was that they had a 100% improvement over the last time we played them and they even have a few wins if I'm not mistaken. I look for them to make the playoffs next season as a wildcard, you could do the same things, it just takes work and dedication.
 
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The bottom line is with the way leveling is set up, every league will be close to the same level over time. Even with the current pyramid scheme. Hell, Badlands, Northwest, and Biloxi would be competitive in USA AAA and maybe Pro. Also, there will always be people who gut and sell a team when they are losing or are just done with the game.

The ONLY way to maintain leagues for low-leveled players is a true tiered system with hard limitations (like years or levels... I personally prefer years).

Many great teams already have "farm teams" or teams that are owned by GMs of the team. A high school, college, pro system (possibly with some upward or downward movement allowed WITHIN those levels) would be a great way to legitimize that sort of farming and allow teams to build into true franchise systems.

Teams like Oklahoma ruin the game, IMO, and the solution isn't to make even worse leagues for them to drop into. That would just re-create that problem at a lower level. Forcing pro teams to sign players with at least 5 seasons (and forcing players with 5 seasons to sign with certain leagues) would maintain a minimum level of parity.
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usafdirtboyz
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What Oklahoma team ruins the game?
 
thunderdoozer
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Originally posted by usafdirtboyz
What Oklahoma team ruins the game?


Oklahoma got gutted and renamed Oakland Raiders, today's Silver & Black.

There is a lot of bitching about teams that recruit players that are "too good", but the true problem involves the gutting of teams.

The other main problem with parity is creating leagues for low-level players.

An idea like mine would solve both problems.
 
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Well the current owner isnt "ruining" the game then, he is rebuilding, and trying to get on a competitive level. Thats also a part of pro football, look at Miami last year, same kind of situation.
 
thunderdoozer
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Originally posted by usafdirtboyz
Well the current owner isnt "ruining" the game then, he is rebuilding, and trying to get on a competitive level. Thats also a part of pro football, look at Miami last year, same kind of situation.


I never said it was the new guy's fault.

And, no, it's nothing like what happens in real football.
 
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Hiya,

There is another thread talking about reorganizations:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=515650

Looks like this issue is being repeated in other leagues.
 
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Originally posted by thunderdoozer
They just need to stop creating leagues all together. There are too many teams for everyone to remain competitive at a high level.

I think there should be leagues based upon how old a player is...

1 year olds play D League...

1-3 year olds play high school

3-5 year olds can play college

5+ can play pros. There is a minor league level and major league level.

No movement up or down for teams. Owners at each level will only be allowed to recruit guys of certain ages, and they will have to recruit more often because they won't be able to keep the same guys 10-12 seasons.

That's the best solution, IMHO.


that wouldn't work.
pretend that Thunderdoozer's idea is how we are playing the game right now
(and we're all in high school)
has it solved anything?
no, there are still teams like Oakland.

get it?
Last edited Jul 6, 2008 18:23:36
 
thunderdoozer
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Then make it lower.

1-2 year olds play high school.

Or make a pyramid system WITHIN each level, so there are A, AA, and AAA high schools, and recommended leagues for a player's level range.
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