Warrior General Games

Originally posted by aaasahi
Forget to say, I have a hurdle rushing QB as well
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4347944
But............ only 1 hurdle fired during regular game.XD
It seems hurdle is pretty good for PHB, but bad for EHB and RQB.

Makes me wonder actually when you show his build because I believe Odessa had a hurdle RQB who hurdled a lot. Maybe Hurdle doesn't stack with Spin and thus why Elusives are sucking with it?

Originally posted by bhall43
Makes me wonder actually when you show his build because I believe Odessa had a hurdle RQB who hurdled a lot. Maybe Hurdle doesn't stack with Spin and thus why Elusives are sucking with it?

I wonder if breaking a diving tackle has a much higher strength component than breaking an ordinary tackle. Still though, 86 strength isn't exactly low on that QB.

I used to think Hurdle was just re-labeling Power Thru that would break the tackle anyway, but doesn't Power Thru re-label Hurdle when they stack?

Originally posted by bhall43
Makes me wonder actually when you show his build because I believe Odessa had a hurdle RQB who hurdled a lot. Maybe Hurdle doesn't stack with Spin and thus why Elusives are sucking with it?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4330951
This one?

Oh ok, here are some more information:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4347944 hurdle RQB

break tackle stat through 10 regular season game

break normal tackle: 15
1. no SA fired: 8 (53.3%)
2. by spin: 7 (46.7%)

break diving tackle: 30
1. no SA fired: 12 (40.0%)
2. by hurdle: 1 (3.3%)
3. by spin: 17 (56.7%)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4349172 hurdle PHB

break tackle stat through 10 regular season game

break normal tackle: 64
1. no SA fired: 35 (54.7%)
2. by Power Through: 24 (37.5%)
3. by Lower the Shoulder: 4 (6.3%)
4. by Stiff Arm: 1 (1.6%)

break diving tackle: 77
1. no SA fired: 14 (18.2%)
2. by hurdle: 44 (57.1%)
3. by Power Through: 16 (20.8%)
4. by Lower the Shoulder: 3 (3.9%)

Originally posted by aaasahi
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4330951
This one?


Thought he had a different name. I will have to look.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
I wonder if breaking a diving tackle has a much higher strength component than breaking an ordinary tackle. Still though, 86 strength isn't exactly low on that QB.

I used to think Hurdle was just re-labeling Power Thru that would break the tackle anyway, but doesn't Power Thru re-label Hurdle when they stack?

Not sure really. But mid 80's strength/carrying should be enough to fire hurdle with 70ish jumping like that. Which makes me just think that maybe Hurdle doesn't stack with Spin like it does the Power SA's.

Originally posted by bhall43
Thought he had a different name. I will have to look.

I check their RQB from S35 to current game.
Two different RQB, 0 hurdle fired. (in regular game, I can't see private scrim, though)

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
I wonder if breaking a diving tackle has a much higher strength component than breaking an ordinary tackle. Still though, 86 strength isn't exactly low on that QB.

I used to think Hurdle was just re-labeling Power Thru that would break the tackle anyway, but doesn't Power Thru re-label Hurdle when they stack?

Obviously not, because that QB break more diving tackle than ordinary tackle.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
I wonder if breaking a diving tackle has a much higher strength component than breaking an ordinary tackle. Still though, 86 strength isn't exactly low on that QB.

I used to think Hurdle was just re-labeling Power Thru that would break the tackle anyway, but doesn't Power Thru re-label Hurdle when they stack?

Every break tackle SA is supposed to re-label Hurdle when they stack according to Bort. The only time it's supposed to appear in the pbp is when it fires on its own.

Jumping plays a large part in breaking diving tackles by itself. Strength and carrying are still part of the role, but jumping is also a large part of the roll, and it even seems to be larger than strength and carrying from what I've seen.

As far as that QB's rate of Hurdle firing, I have no clue, it seems to be an anomaly to me, just more reason that i dont like the SA and think something else is going on we're not aware of on PHB's.