Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Yeah, you'll never get carrying, strength, stamina, vision, and confidence up enough on that build to avoid fumbles. The higher jumping is a nice idea, but ending up at 60 would be better than 90.

yeah, pretty much what i thought. with only 60 jumping, though, will hurdle ever fire? its rare enough as it is, only about one per game if that.


he does do quite well as jumping over the first guy--the 2nd one usually gets him though. would be great as a pure KR guy if a team could afford having two returners. not so great on PRs

Hard to tell when hurdle fires on returns but I'm sure it does. However, spin seems to work far more often... and also seems more effective.

Originally posted by fogie55
yeah, pretty much what i thought. with only 60 jumping, though, will hurdle ever fire? its rare enough as it is, only about one per game if that.


he does do quite well as jumping over the first guy--the 2nd one usually gets him though. would be great as a pure KR guy if a team could afford having two returners. not so great on PRs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4319678

This dot has 63 Jumping and 7 Hurdle, and Hurdle fires "on its own" often enough to make it worth the investment. Since it is the only break tackle SA that can fire in conjunction with other break tackle SAs for a cumulative effect, anytime Power Thru or Spin claim credit for a diving tackle there is also the chance that Hurdle helped.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2428856&pbp_id=7639527
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Hurdle tends to fire "on its own" between two and three times a game as is, more once I get the 56 SP for boosting to 79.

:knowledgebomb:

ok, will be moving EQ off jumping (one piece already shopped and upgraded once, but won't upgrade jumping any more) and drop High Jumper from the planned VA list (was going to dump the leftover 10 or 11 into it after having 15 in all the others)

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by Pen15

my bad on the 15 steady grip i just checked my own returner and he has 6 in that and 6 in OTK
really though, not fumble % gear? i would just build for more strength tbh

Taking strength from 80 to 90 is something like a 9% increase in strength and it costs a number of SPs. Using your CEQ into AF% is a 12% increase in strength, carrying, and all other aspects of the AF score, including SAs.

oh definitely the % aeq is better for the fumble protection itself, but i was just kind of surprised that you guys don't go all #YOLO on the building and try to stack offensive abilities as high as possible. so what is the baseline you guys look for from gear, just the 15% not fumble? or add any CE onto that, or in some instances do you go lower and JUST use CE for it?

Originally posted by Pen15
oh definitely the % aeq is better for the fumble protection itself, but i was just kind of surprised that you guys don't go all #YOLO on the building and try to stack offensive abilities as high as possible. so what is the baseline you guys look for from gear, just the 15% not fumble? or add any CE onto that, or in some instances do you go lower and JUST use CE for it?

It depends on the shopping gods. I'd prefer to use AEQ for the 15%, but I'll use CEQ for the 12% if shopping doesn't go my way.

Originally posted by fogie55
good stuff. thanks.

suppose because of where the build is now he has to pick between maxing Slippery and Steady Grip.

would it be better to have 15 SG and only 10 or 11 in Slippery?

I'd say so.

FWTIW