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Originally posted by Phantom Of The Opera
I am OK with this if you allow OC's to have custom Offensive Line positions for packages.

this has nothing to do with tat... if offense gets that, defense should get tagging and custom D-line...

this is about player tactics and not custom positions

Originally posted by Chysil
this has nothing to do with tat... if offense gets that, defense should get tagging and custom D-line...

this is about player tactics and not custom positions

OK, fine then allow O-line blocking to change depending on the play call, just like an O-linemen would do in real life with no +/- penalty.

+1000 ... great suggestion, *but* seems to me like it'd require a pretty hefty overhaul and not holding my breath.

Originally posted by Phantom Of The Opera
OK, fine then allow O-line blocking to change depending on the play call, just like an O-linemen would do in real life with no +/- penalty.

that makes sense to me, and I've always been a proponent of this in particular. I've always thought that pass vs run block should be defined via their build and not their tactics

edit: to elaborate. I've always thought the blocking tactics should be more of a slider with one end being hold the block and the other end being focus on pancake / moving the defender. That would make more sense and could apply for both passing and rushing. In fact I'd even be fine with situational of that to, a slider for run plays and a slider for pass plays.

Originally posted by Gambler75
+1000 ... great suggestion, *but* seems to me like it'd require a pretty hefty overhaul and not holding my breath.

well in terms of coding I think it's easy. Since the settings exist it would be just telling the sim which setting to use based on who the defender is tackling. For a game balance issue, it'd need to be tested, but I think that this would have minimal impact on the game, and would allow for the secondary to specialize a bit... don't think the offense would change much except for maybe a slightly higher carrying. I could see the need for making KLs a little harder to get on balanced if testing showed too many KL passes.

-1 but good idea, Like Hatch Said, The Player Tactic thing is so much of a headache, I say do away with them all together.

Originally posted by Chysil
edit: to elaborate. I've always thought the blocking tactics should be more of a slider with one end being hold the block and the other end being focus on pancake / moving the defender. That would make more sense and could apply for both passing and rushing. In fact I'd even be fine with situational of that to, a slider for run plays and a slider for pass plays.

Question then. Wouldn't this ability water down the need for O-line archetypes? As it is now, a team could carry 10 O-linemen, 5 pass type and 5 run type... and go that route. Most do. But if I could take a Run block guard and adjust his slider to a slightly pass oriented setting, then I would get the benefit of that setting while limiting the damage of being "set for pass block", which is absolute. Don't get me wrong... I really like the thought of a slider setting rather than what we have now... I just am pondering how it effects the current system and archetypes.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Originally posted by Chysil

edit: to elaborate. I've always thought the blocking tactics should be more of a slider with one end being hold the block and the other end being focus on pancake / moving the defender. That would make more sense and could apply for both passing and rushing. In fact I'd even be fine with situational of that to, a slider for run plays and a slider for pass plays.

Question then. Wouldn't this ability water down the need for O-line archetypes? As it is now, a team could carry 10 O-linemen, 5 pass type and 5 run type... and go that route. Most do. But if I could take a Run block guard and adjust his slider to a slightly pass oriented setting, then I would get the benefit of that setting while limiting the damage of being "set for pass block", which is absolute. Don't get me wrong... I really like the thought of a slider setting rather than what we have now... I just am pondering how it effects the current system and archetypes.



in any MMO focus is important... taking a run blocker and using the slider to make them more of a pass blocker will always be worse than a pass blocker that is set to a more pass block tactic setting

fucking LOL

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
only if i can make my powerback go on elusive and run away for HH LBs and then 100 power setting versus cornerbacks and safeties then go back to -51 when he is in the clear so he just runs straight ahead.

i didnt think anyone would actually agree with my post. i ended up doing the opposite of what i was trying to do.