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Sorry daryls61


Hey man, you Tried and that's more than some here on the site would do. Most would just get mad and
not say a word.

Originally posted by 1hottie
It must have been....

I, myself, am far too depressed with the comments from bhall and Romo here to continue any of this

I find it hard to believe your state of depression would be relieved with a couple small additions to the game that have nothing to do with the sim itself......

Originally posted by bhall43
I find it hard to believe your state of depression would be relieved with a couple small additions to the game that have nothing to do with the sim itself......

This is exactly where you go wrong. You are not understanding what the userbase is asking and seem disconnected from what the userbase considers important. I am not sure how much clearer I can make it.

Fix the simple stuff. It is the simple things that can be very annoying at times. Why do i have to go into every player and set the play intensity to hard? No one plays on anything but hard. For gods sake man, make hard the default.

How long would that actually take to do? It is as if no one cares.

Originally posted by daryls61
You are not understanding what the userbase is asking and seem disconnected from what the userbase considers important. I am not sure how much clearer I can make it.


I must be disconnected because I didn't know people were so frustrated with clicking a few extra buttons that they were quitting over it. Here I thought it was the general complexity of the game and the boring 90 GL/Big I Run games.

Originally posted by daryls61
This is exactly where you go wrong. You are not understanding what the userbase is asking and seem disconnected from what the userbase considers important. I am not sure how much clearer I can make it.

Fix the simple stuff. It is the simple things that can be very annoying at times. Why do i have to go into every player and set the play intensity to hard? No one plays on anything but hard. For gods sake man, make hard the default.

How long would that actually take to do? It is as if no one cares.

So let's say it takes 3 days to make a small change (maybe it does, maybe it doesn't) . Would you be OK with delaying the new game 3 days for each of these small sim related changes to GLB?

If so, OK I see your point. If not, do you see bhall's?

Originally posted by 1hottie
I know you and a few others DO spend a lot of time in the forums... see ya all the time. Thanks btw !! And myself and many others
DO understand that Bort and Corndog are spending the majority fo their time with the upcoming games.... but Please....
what we are asking is for GLB not to be left out. There are things that need changing or tweeking still. Sometimes we feel like the
"red headed step children".

I would not have a problem with the suggestions not being implemented if we could just get a brief reason as to WHY he doesn't want to implement them.

Is it so hard to just provide a brief statement from bort via catch or someone else that says

Bort doesn't like this suggestion because of XYZ
Bort likes this suggestion but is not sure how to implement it because of xyz

I'd expect less bitching if people knew suggestions were actually being looked at.

Originally posted by Robbnva
I would not have a problem with the suggestions not being implemented if we could just get a brief reason as to WHY he doesn't want to implement them.

Is it so hard to just provide a brief statement from bort via catch or someone else that says

Bort doesn't like this suggestion because of XYZ
Bort likes this suggestion but is not sure how to implement it because of xyz

I'd expect less bitching if people knew suggestions were actually being looked at.

To be honest, there'd still be bitching. There will always be bitching.

Originally posted by bhall43
I find it hard to believe your state of depression would be relieved with a couple small additions to the game that have nothing to do with the sim itself......

They might seem small to you but for the people that are Players here... they're important. Not just this one but others. Don't mock
me for letting go. We've been told by you and Romo that what we think is important... isn't. One of the suggestions I've talked
about (not in this thread) is not a "small addition".


Originally posted by bhall43
I must be disconnected because I didn't know people were so frustrated with clicking a few extra buttons that they were quitting over it. Here I thought it was the general complexity of the game and the boring 90 GL/Big I Run games.

I believe you just may be disconnected from the user base here. And............. I'm not quitting just because things don't go my way. lol Never have, never will.


Originally posted by slashxtreme
So let's say it takes 3 days to make a small change (maybe it does, maybe it doesn't) . Would you be OK with delaying the new game 3 days for each of these small sim related changes to GLB?

If so, OK I see your point. If not, do you see bhall's?

Yes. We're Not playing the new games yet... how can we compare that. Right now I feel they can do what they want with the
new games...... but this one (because we are here now playing it) needs a few tweaks.


Yes, Novus...... there are Always going to be people bitching and complaining. Of course. On the average tho... most people are
pretty ok with the way things are run here. I'm not a malcontent at all. I love this game or I wouldn't have been here as long as I
have. But when something needs fixing or tweaking... we should be able to suggest the change and either hear.... "OK, we'll
take a look, let you know if it's a consideration............ OR.... Ya know, that is going to take way too much time to get done and
we really don't think it's going to make that much of a difference. " But to hear that the game we are playing right now, spending
money on right now is in Third Place... that's hard to take. We all know, second place is the first loser and third place....... well,
just don't want to be third.

Originally posted by 1hottie
Yes. We're Not playing the new games yet... how can we compare that. Right now I feel they can do what they want with the
new games...... but this one (because we are here now playing it) needs a few tweaks.



If we keep making tiny tweaks that in the long run are not as important in the grand scheme of things as finishing a new game, then the new game will never get done. I'm sure Bort and the other programmers/admin are well aware there are small changes that do/will need to be done to make GLB better, however, (my words not theirs) I believe they are more focused on getting a new game out. If the tweak is important enough to break off and take the 3-5 days to make GLB notably better, I believe they'll do it. But as for right now we're getting a list of suggestions together (Catch's list to Bort) to do just that. We don't need someone to be Catch's conduit to Bort because in all honesty, we ALL do it.

Originally posted by slashxtreme
So let's say it takes 3 days to make a small change (maybe it does, maybe it doesn't) . Would you be OK with delaying the new game 3 days for each of these small sim related changes to GLB?

If so, OK I see your point. If not, do you see bhall's?

I only care about GLB.

However, if what they are working on is GLB 2.0, then that is something worth value to me.

Originally posted by 1hottie
We've been told by you and Romo that what we think is important... isn't.


Neither of us said what you all think isn't important. But they also aren't dire needs. Though I am unsure what change you are talking about that isn't a small addition.

Fwiw...I am no coder, but I can't imagine all these "minor adjustments" to the game are as easy as you all make them out to be.

Originally posted by Phantom Of The Opera
I only care about GLB.

However, if what they are working on is GLB 2.0, then that is something worth value to me.



If they were catering specifically to you. That would be relevant.

Originally posted by bhall43
I must be disconnected because I didn't know people were so frustrated with clicking a few extra buttons that they were quitting over it. Here I thought it was the general complexity of the game and the boring 90 GL/Big I Run games.

I don't think you're disconnected... but it is kinda hard for some to see what the rest already know. For the many GLB'ers out there that have only a few teams (owned)... or less than 20 dots... or coach on a handful of teams... those people don't go through what people with teams where they own all the dots... or people that have LOTS of dots to work with... or people that coach on many different teams. The more you do here, the more things you have to click through to get done. And it multiplies exponentially with each added job/team/dot. And, furthermore, I'm willing to bet that these people, though fewer in number than the causal GLB'er, spend a LOT of money here. I've worked with 2 such people in GLB (people that owned the team, the dots, and did MOST of the coaching jobs as well) and they no longer do so. Their main grievance when they got out was just how much TIME it took to get everything done. Unnecessary, and unneeded, clicking is time consuming and aggravating... and, after a while, it simply wears you down leaving you with a sour taste in your mouth and taking the fun out of the game. This is what I've seen posted, PM'd, and mentioned plenty for many seasons and why I've always advocated ANY suggestion that helps make things LESS time consuming and easier to get done. It's just good business sense.

I know full well what that is like. And there is a list of things that will likely be done with during the reconstruction period of GLB when they merge the new game(s) in. So it isn't like any of these things have been swept under the rug. If they were they would have come out and told you they weren't gonna happen.

I will one up you on anything player building time consuming with the DAI transfer. Absolute nightmare.

Originally posted by bhall43
I know full well what that is like. And there is a list of things that will likely be done with during the reconstruction period of GLB when they merge the new game(s) in. So it isn't like any of these things have been swept under the rug. If they were they would have come out and told you they weren't gonna happen.

I will one up you on anything player building time consuming with the DAI transfer. Absolute nightmare.

I hear ya. Just as long as you agree that anything that makes the game (or the future games) simpler to play and easier to understand (as much as possible) will surely make the game more attractive to the newer players that come in. Us old timers already got our wings and know how to fly this awkward thing. So any improvements will just make a few happier and give a few others something to gripe about. But it sure would make it easier on the noobs.