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One of the reasons the Minors get such a bad rap is due to the way teams are sorted in the off season. Far too often good teams don’t make the playoffs and are sent to another league where they win that league with no problem. On the surface this appears to be the right direction to go; if you can’t make the playoffs, you probably don’t belong.

The problem is if you make it far enough in the playoffs in the Competitive League or Regular League for your age bracket, you get the chance to play in Elite the next season. Winning in a league that contains mostly CPU teams or League Underground teams does not mean you belong in Elite. These teams are moved into Elite and become easy wins for the previous playoff teams.

This just creates a cycle of teams moving into Elite for a season and being shipped off because they were never good enough to be there in the first place. In the mean time, teams that could have been competitive are pushed to leagues where they are bored most of the season because they face teams that don’t have a chance to beat them due to unfilled rosters, under leveled teams, or they don’t have knowledgeable coordinators to help them.

There are simple factors that can be looked at to tell how well a team will do that next season in the Minors and probably even Regional Pro:

1. Effective Level
2. Previous Team Record
3. Number of Players on roster

Each offseason in the Minors, the age brackets change and all the teams move up to the next level. This currently happens on Day 42, but being in your set league on Day 42 means nothing expect maybe some small quantity of forum posts about the upcoming season.

Using the criteria above, GLB Admins can rank teams properly and on the night of Day 48 into Day -8 all of the teams can be placed into the correct league where they belong.

This will ensure all of the leagues have competitive games throughout the season. Yes, Effective Level doesn’t mean your team is good; this will be shown in your team record from that season. Yes, Effective Level can be manipulated by roster size and players; this will be shown in the number of players on the roster.

Not only will this change encourage competitiveness at the lowest level, but with similar teams faced each season; this will create new rivalries. The majority of a dots career is spent in the Minors where most of the teams don’t care what happens.

It’s time GLB tries to improve this stage of the game.


Originally posted by SciFi not Syfy
I wish all teams at each age just went into an age based cloud and then sorted into league just prior to making schedules. I have never understood why some have insisted on knowing what league they are in on day 42. With age based leagues, it should not matter.


Edited by jpjn94 on Apr 27, 2013 09:08:04
 
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Kind of tough for the admins to have future knowledge of what a team is planning on doing with its team and I am not very high on the EL approach as I have been in some leagues with guys who have great EL's and are the leagues worst teams.

That being said I do wish there would be a second sweep mid preseason that any team with less than 50 human players be removed from elite leagues.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
I do wish there would be a second sweep mid preseason that any team with less than 50 human players be removed from elite leagues.


Yes... this should happen for sure.


As for your suggestion jp.... +1
 
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Originally posted by 1hottie


Yes... this should happen for sure.


As for your suggestion jp.... +1


but it isn't WL so GLB will give this about as much chance as a snowballs chance in hell of being implemented.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43


That being said I do wish there would be a second sweep mid preseason that any team with less than 50 human players be removed from elite leagues.


I would just go with this, I know I made a suggestion about 10+ seasons ago for moving teams the night before the next season starts, most teams have a full roster by then, so it should be really easy to see who will have 50-55 players and who won't and what teams will be CPU teams, the only problem is someone buying a team, after that and moving a full roster over for an easy league win, that leads to the hard part, maybe another sweep on Day -(minus)1 only moving full teams up one league.
 
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I wish all teams at each age just went into an age based cloud and then sorted into league just prior to making schedules. I have never understood why some have insisted on knowing what league they are in on day 42. With age based leagues, it should not matter.
 
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I have personally offered to spend my own time, without compensation, helping to do better sorting of teams by hand, all by myself.

Catch said, "No thanks."

This simply isn't a priority for Bort and Catch. They came up with a league-sorting algorithm that is fully-automated and kinda-sorta works with no need for human intervention, and that's all they ever wanted. Anything beyond that would require effort, and they don't want to put any more effort into this.

So, as much as I want to +1 this suggestion, it is... say it with me now...

"Not Going To Happen."
 
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Originally posted by SciFi not Syfy
I wish all teams at each age just went into an age based cloud and then sorted into league just prior to making schedules. I have never understood why some have insisted on knowing what league they are in on day 42. With age based leagues, it should not matter.


My thoughts as well; added to OP

 
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Originally posted by SciFi not Syfy
I wish all teams at each age just went into an age based cloud and then sorted into league just prior to making schedules. I have never understood why some have insisted on knowing what league they are in on day 42. With age based leagues, it should not matter.


People that need to know, want to know if they are going to get easy wins, I don't even look at the teams in the league until two-three days before my first regular season game.
 
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Originally posted by SciFi not Syfy
I wish all teams at each age just went into an age based cloud and then sorted into league just prior to making schedules. I have never understood why some have insisted on knowing what league they are in on day 42. With age based leagues, it should not matter.


As long as they told me the Age bracket I was definitively going to be in that is fine. If I request to skip Semi for regional pro I would like to know that is happening. And before anyone says you shouldn't be able to skip Semi, that would be all fine and good if there were enough players in this game that I could easily recruit guys at that age. But the leagues are dwindling each season and there only 3 leagues of Nat Minors and Semi currently. That isn't a lot of players to choose from and they certainly are hard to find and recruit. (This coming from a guy that probably recruits rather easily)
 
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Way too many non-boost teams make it to elite.

The problem is the league set-up. Should be elite > comp > non-comp instead of elite > comp/non-comp.

 
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Bort has said this is NGTH.
 


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