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jdbolick
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Maybe Bort could build in a very slight YAC Attack naturally so that the tackle score is a little bit lower immediately after a catch.
 
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It would be nice if break tackle WRs are relevant, but not like they were for a number of seasons when tackles were broken left and right.

Have anyone tried to go with break tackle builds in the WL during the last couple of seasons? I can't remember seeing many of them.
 
jdbolick
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I tried Dadd's during the Grand Banks run. Didn't work.
 
Saris
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Originally posted by lardaddy
I remember noticing this one on Sumatra last ssn, no idea what the build is but definitely saw him break a fair amount of tackles

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2355747


Even the few wr's who can break some tackles seem to always have awful yac numbers.
 
Dr. E
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Has anyone looked at the percentage of catches to the broken tackles and compared it to the percentage of a HB breaking tackles and his carries? I'd bet it's pretty close, at least for a WR build like a power player.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by Pen15
no, because no one has the stones to take carrying to 90 on a WR.


i only go to 80 usually. We have a couple TE's that will be at 100.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by cavalier
It would be nice if break tackle WRs are relevant, but not like they were for a number of seasons when tackles were broken left and right.

Have anyone tried to go with break tackle builds in the WL during the last couple of seasons? I can't remember seeing many of them.


That is because they suck in WL. I don't know what it is about adding 40+ more strength and carrying to your build but suddenly 90+ catching and 2 Catch % pieces become garbage.
 
bhall43
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I have seen some not very well built break tackle TE's do some small damage though. Their routes are easier to manage.
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Has anyone looked at the percentage of catches to the broken tackles and compared it to the percentage of a HB breaking tackles and his carries? I'd bet it's pretty close, at least for a WR build like a power player.

I have, and no, it's not even remotely close. I sent the data to Mike Rogers / Bort.
 
evileyez
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Originally posted by jdbolick

I have, and no, it's not even remotely close. I sent the data to Mike Rogers / Bort.


i've been doing the same push the last few seasons as well ... w/o much success obv
 
evileyez
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Maybe Bort could build in a very slight YAC Attack naturally so that the tackle score is a little bit lower immediately after a catch.


this is the logical adjustment imo too
 
TheGreatAus
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Originally posted by evileyez
this is the logical adjustment imo too


It should depend on the coverage. If the CB is going for the ball, he is naturally going to be in a worse position for tackling. If he just stays on the WR's hip and is a prevention to the QB throwing to him and not going for the ball as frequently, he would be in a better position for tackling. Not sure how thats coded in at the moment, but as it stands, it blows
 
evileyez
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Originally posted by TheGreatAus
It should depend on the coverage. If the CB is going for the ball, he is naturally going to be in a worse position for tackling. If he just stays on the WR's hip and is a prevention to the QB throwing to him and not going for the ball as frequently, he would be in a better position for tackling. Not sure how thats coded in at the moment, but as it stands, it blows


the problem is this game is well past introducing new fundamentals. you need to work within the existing structure of what's already in place.

you either buff a VA or adjust the roll. adjusting the roll (while i've no clue how it's coded) quite possible adjusts all tackle rolls which isn't warranted

once again, the problem was the CEQ + 50+ SP you gave all D dots. this aspect was never rebalanced on the O side
Edited by evileyez on Mar 20, 2013 07:23:17
 
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