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Non-Boosting first Post Season HB (adjusted below to add in 3 boosts the VPB cant do yet)

I forgot to boost this build at level 22 (in VPB).

Does it matter that much?

Is this build gonna work?

World League Material? If not, what needs to be different?

Strong Arm, worthy extra SA for an Elusive with 75 Strength? Or should I have gone with something else? What?

PROPOSED HB NUMBER 1
Position: hb_elusive_back
Season: 7
Day: 1
Boosts: 27
Level: 79
XP: 175
VA XP: 375 - Adds two Trains for 12 BT no skill increase +2 bonus BT
VA: 66
Bonus Tokens: 1524 (+14 XP)
SP: 3
strength : 76.26
speed : 103.1 (161)
agility : 94.1
jumping : 6
stamina : 63.26
vision : 76.1
confidence : 40.26
blocking : 6
catching : 22.26
carrying : 82.1


Top SA Tree: | 9(10) | 1(2) | 2(3) | 3(10) | 3(10) |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 10 | Strong Arm

AEQ - 13 Speed 6 Juke 388 BT, 13 Speed 6 Spin 388 BT, 13 Speed +13% Break Tackle 388 BT, 13 Speed +12% Fake 368 BT *
* = 6 BT extra to use for two shopping attempts if can get anything above cheaper then can shop more to try to improve the +% pieces.

CEQ 6 Speed Elusive +12% Break Tackle

VA = 15 Slippery 15 Quick Feet 15 Short Yardage Monster 15 Overtime Killer 6 Goal Line Back

Strong Arm is a pass blocking skill, do you miss some thing here?
And his carrying is too low.....plus you add 0 in cover up and 0 in Mr.Reliable?
I will say this dot can't be WL level...

Stiff Arm I meant.

Carrying 82 is too low?

ran this through the builder for an elusive HB KR

swap out the Return Specialist Bonus SA for something else - maybe in Cover Up instead

HB returner - using Elusive HB archetype

EL = 1521.6

Bonus Tokens: 1130

Attributes:
strength : 71.26
speed : 104.1
agility : 97.1
jumping : 27
stamina : 63.26
vision : 60.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 22.26
carrying : 92.1

Top SA Tree: | 7 | 9 | 5 | 9 | 10 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 8 |---> Return Specialist (move to Cover Up in the Power Tree instead for an elusive HB only)

1 Spin AE
+21% Fake
+15% BT

Vision 60 for an EHB?

Does Vision go into Fakes or Break Tackles at all?

Originally posted by yello1
Stiff Arm I meant.

Carrying 82 is too low?



Stiff Arm is already in your SA tree...........
Carrying 82 is too low, plus you add 0 in cover up.

Originally posted by aaasahi
Stiff Arm is already in your SA tree...........
Carrying 82 is too low, plus you add 0 in cover up.

Yeah my mistake, rebooted the build. Post Day 48 so no harm no foul.

Why is carrying 82 too low? My last HB had Carry 90 and he did not seem to break alot of tackles due to it.

And he didnt have cover up and didnt seem to fumble very much.

Mind you this is an outside running build. Not meant for the middle and those big scary DLinemen.

Not saying you are wrong, just trying to get a handle on it.

Originally posted by yello1
Vision 60 for an EHB?

Does Vision go into Fakes or Break Tackles at all?

it was a returner build

60 is fine

ran this - a little more vision and catching

Elusive HB only build

EL = 1512

VA: 72
Bonus Tokens: 1151

Attributes:
strength : 70.26
speed : 104.1
agility : 97.1
jumping : 31
stamina : 61.26
vision : 65.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 36.26
carrying : 92.1

Top SA Tree: | 6 | 8 | 5 | 8 | 10 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 |

1 Spin AE
+21% Fake
+15% BT

Man, I put vision in all the wrong places it seems heh. Not enough on my LBs too much on my offense.

Originally posted by yello1
Man, I put vision in all the wrong places it seems heh. Not enough on my LBs too much on my offense.

You ain't alone man. You ain't the only one who fights to get vision right. Just read the hundreds of posts about all the various thoughts on what number (for vision... on any given position) is "correct". About as diverse as political views.

If I was building a WL HB I'd aim for the following benchmarks.

160 speed
90 agility
90 carrying
80+ strength
60+ stamina

High HF/Juke/Spin
AEQ in +% Break and +% Fake (double up on both, 3 AEQ + CEQ)


Vision can be 50-60 and don't worry about catching. In today's sim you can still catch screens even if your catching is sub-30.

cool, so I'll just keep carrying going a little longer and go to strength sooner. QED.

Or should I put Strength in the Multi Training instead of vision.....hmmmm.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
If I was building a WL HB I'd aim for the following benchmarks.

160 speed
90 agility
90 carrying
80+ strength
60+ stamina

High HF/Juke/Spin
AEQ in +% Break and +% Fake (double up on both, 3 AEQ + CEQ)


Vision can be 50-60 and don't worry about catching. In today's sim you can still catch screens even if your catching is sub-30.

here's one I ran with higher strength

Elusive HB

EL = 1523.64

VA: 72
Bonus Tokens: 1218

Attributes:
strength : 79.26
speed : 104.1
agility : 98.1
jumping : 25
stamina : 62.26
vision : 55.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 22.26
carrying : 93.1

Top SA Tree: | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 10 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 |

1 Spin AE
+21% Fake
+15% BT

Cool, think I can get this build to that with a couple of changes.