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Dub J
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
...how the game is structured has already proven to be the fail ...look how peewee has flourished


This isn't a troll on my part but PW was fail from the get go. It was exposed the day Rookie leagues were added. What many consider to be the heyday of PW was when it was nothing more than a large group of farm teams. This was exposed when Rookie was rolled out. The amount of teams that went CPU that offseason is staggering as well as very telling.

It was obvious PW wasn't nearly as popular as many of us believed.



 
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Originally posted by Dub J
This isn't a troll on my part but PW was fail from the get go. It was exposed the day Rookie leagues were added. What many consider to be the heyday of PW was when it was nothing more than a large group of farm teams. This was exposed when Rookie was rolled out. The amount of teams that went CPU that offseason is staggering as well as very telling.

It was obvious PW wasn't nearly as popular as many of us believed.





You don't know anything about pee wee but always spit off at the mouth like you always do. Never have done ANYTHING in pee wee but quit or carried a player here or there and think your part of something.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3197522

Look down at season 9, 10 and 11 (Those were just the champions with another 15 plus teams battling for the league championship) Also there were 25 leagues for a couple of seasons.
Those seasons had 100's of good pee wee teams. They were not farm teams. There were 100's of those as well but back in those days pee wee was flourished with good solid teams. What happened? Slam fest at the end of season 11 and all of season 12. Most teams disappeared after that. Yes rookie did deplete a lot of good teams but when we refer to the good old days that is what we are talking about. Even after season 12 many things made agents quit left and right. I also did stats for most every league, teams and what not. We had over 1000 individual agents back in season 10 and 11 for pee wees. That number dropped big time in season 13 to 350+. Maybe you just missed the party.
 
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Oh yeah forgot, Money with the cost of running a pee wee team is mostly what killed it at least with most agents I talked to, that and real life.
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by LordEvil
You don't know anything about pee wee but always spit off at the mouth like you always do. Never have done ANYTHING in pee wee but quit or carried a player here or there and think your part of something.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3197522

Look down at season 9, 10 and 11 (Those were just the champions with another 15 plus teams battling for the league championship) Also there were 25 leagues for a couple of seasons.
Those seasons had 100's of good pee wee teams. They were not farm teams. There were 100's of those as well but back in those days pee wee was flourished with good solid teams. What happened? Slam fest at the end of season 11 and all of season 12. Most teams disappeared after that. Yes rookie did deplete a lot of good teams but when we refer to the good old days that is what we are talking about. Even after season 12 many things made agents quit left and right. I also did stats for most every league, teams and what not. We had over 1000 individual agents back in season 10 and 11 for pee wees. That number dropped big time in season 13 to 350+. Maybe you just missed the party.


Are you saying that PW didn't fall apart when rookie leagues were introduced?

I mean, all that shit you just posted did nothing to dispute what I stated. Back when PW was more active it was 1-4 teams battling for gold and then a shitload of farm teams and CPUs in each league. You obviously are trying to revise history.



 
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And no, I owned a PW team the day PW was implemented. I didn't miss anything.

 
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Back with my old Springfield team there was NOLA, Texas, us and a shitload of garbage teams. That was back when PW was much more popular (right before the G/S/C set-up).

 
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Originally posted by Dub J
And no, I owned a PW team the day PW was implemented. I didn't miss anything.



What team?
 
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Pretty sure it was the LR Mudcats.

 
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http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/peeweechart.jpg
 
Dub J
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How does that dispute anything I've posted?

I never argued against the fact there were more human owned teams/players back in the day. Only disputed the level of competition.

Edited by Dub J on Feb 17, 2013 17:05:46
 
ManOgwaR
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Originally posted by LordEvil
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3197522

Look down at season 9, 10 and 11 (Those were just the champions with another 15 plus teams battling for the league championship) Also there were 25 leagues for a couple of seasons.
Those seasons had 100's of good pee wee teams. They were not farm teams. There were 100's of those as well but back in those days pee wee was flourished with good solid teams. What happened? Slam fest at the end of season 11 and all of season 12. Most teams disappeared after that. Yes rookie did deplete a lot of good teams but when we refer to the good old days that is what we are talking about. Even after season 12 many things made agents quit left and right. I also did stats for most every league, teams and what not. We had over 1000 individual agents back in season 10 and 11 for pee wees. That number dropped big time in season 13 to 350+. Maybe you just missed the party.


...yeah season 9 was when I started playing and that was a classic period from S9 to S13 ...archetypes came in around then and I think that would have triggered an exodus also ...i dunno about there being hundreds of good teams back then, but if there were, then it would have been close to 200 (just to justify you using the term '100s') ...the ever changing sim wouldn't have been solely to blame for the exodus(maybe they just used that as an excuse to quit?!?) ...S10<S13 is where my heart is at for PW ...i wish that we could just wind back the clock and have it as fun to be involved with as it was back then ...so many awesome characters involved in the community and the forums were so much fun! ...I really miss the community aspect of how peewee was back then
Edited by ManOgwaR on Feb 18, 2013 14:04:41
 
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The rise of FG and the fall of the old pee wee order happened at the same time. Slam ball was the biggest reason why FG was able to become a top pee wee team, Jxgator and I were ready for that. That's why FG fell off when passing become really strong from season 20 to season 23; I was still using a run based offense.
 
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Back in the days before pee wee gold, you had to make your mark in Tournaments or trying to defeat lol dots . I think the mods got too aggressive in their bans and forum controls. And gifs......Bort should know his audience and know that he's not going to get paying 13 year olds playing this game Mor uncensored forums tbh.
 
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Originally posted by stwcjj
Back in the days before pee wee gold, you had to make your mark in Tournaments or trying to defeat lol dots . I think the mods got too aggressive in their bans and forum controls. And gifs......Bort should know his audience and know that he's not going to get paying 13 year olds playing this game Mor uncensored forums tbh.


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