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phat_lyk_dat
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A lot of ppl were worried about my CB's # of tackles last off season. Many ppl assume that getting a lot of tackles is indicative of a CB getting beat on a consistent basis. in today's game, my CB had 12 tackles, and most of them came in the running game.

here the game:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=47175&mode=pbp

and yes, i know the other team isnt great, but that have a fairly competitive team, and have 2 lvl 18 RB's, not a 'HUGE' mismatch, its not like we played a cpu/gutted team.

here:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8583806
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8583182
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8583829
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8584132
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8584948
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8585786
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8585903
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8585982
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8586015

other plays i was involved in:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8587351 ..zone coverage, i almost got to it, any tips for this?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8583855 deflection

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8585810 made the tackle, not my man

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8585834 deflected

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=8583104 jumped the route, but nothing

I judge that as a good game. I only got passed on twice, knocked down 2 others, and made a huge difference in the run game on pitches.
Last edited Jun 29, 2008 18:46:36
 
packers0491
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wow you got 58 tackles last season and 43 so far this season, you must suck
Last edited Jun 29, 2008 18:48:35
 
xScREaMx
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I agree with everything said phat. You can make assumptions off of stats but nobody has any right to say how good anyone is solely off stats.
 
phat_lyk_dat
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ouch packers, coming from a former teammate that hurts. U know i played ST's last year lol.
Last edited Jun 29, 2008 18:56:27
 
Viscount
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I agree, I don't think you can really evaluated a CB on tackles, as a CB on our team got 10 tackles in a game but then he also got 8 PDs and 2 Ints returning 1 for a TD that game.
He's got 65 tackles so far this season which some may think is bad, but he also has 40 PDs and 9 Ints returning 3 for TDs.
 
packers0491
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ya but a lot of deflections aren't really deflections because they are caught by the WR anyway
 
xyakks
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Originally posted by packers0491
ya but a lot of deflections aren't really deflections because they are caught by the WR anyway


Yeah, they piss the absolute crap out of me, not that I've had much success this season.
 
tomseven
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My CB's tackles and PD's have gone down this year. After reviewing the games, I realized that the primary reason was that they were rarely throwing to the WR my guy was covering. So I agree, stats can be hugely misleading with CBs. Also agree that tackles are necessarily a bad indication if you look behind the numbers, if those are tackles against HB/FB, then those are positive stats.
 
Staz
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I think a CBs tackle number can also be skewed by stopping the HB when he bounces outside/catches a pass out of the backfield.
 
Leahmic
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Originally posted by packers0491
ya but a lot of deflections aren't really deflections because they are caught by the WR anyway


This happens WAY too much IMO. How many times do you see WRs in the NFL catch balls off tipped passes...you probably see it 3x a week and all those plays are top 10 on Sportscenter for that week.
 
phat_lyk_dat
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=BFHzf58REWs

Go noles!

but seriously it needs to get fixed. pisses me off every time.
 
xyakks
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Originally posted by phat_lyk_dat
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BFHzf58REWs

Go noles!

but seriously it needs to get fixed. pisses me off every time.


I see I got 2 tackles and 1 PD in 50 plays this week. 1 tackle I gave up a 10 yard gain. The other tackle came from my pass deflection that went right to the WR who I then tackled.
 


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