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Time Trial
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Originally posted by jdbolick



Is this because you don't believe me or because I answered the question he forgot to ask? Too many people still treat carrying as the thing that helps prevent fumbles. Carrying lets your dot make tighter cuts too.

Originally posted by whodey08
He is slow because I normally have all equipment in speed but our blocking FB is so slow that my HB was running past him so I switched his equipment to all strength to purposely make him slower so he he would stay behind the FB and I figured the extra strength would get him the 1-2 yards on 3rd/4th and short. I will move the equipment to speed down the road.

Still woulda thought 100+ strength and 52 carrying would get me the first down on 4th and 1. What was I thinking


My Power HB hasn't had any issues with 62 strength, 85 Carrying, 43 speed.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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He facepalmed because carrying is most certainly not greater than strength in the break tackle roll.

It's mildly entertaining that this belief still floats around.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
He facepalmed because carrying is most certainly not greater than strength in the break tackle roll.

It's mildly entertaining that this belief still floats around.


I disagree, I've built a lot of strength first power tackle breakers, and I have seen a lot more success since switching to carrying first.

Strength-based tackle breaking SAs are the exception, as Bort has noted that the effect of those SAs is based on the strength attribute.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
He facepalmed because carrying is most certainly not greater than strength in the break tackle roll.

It's mildly entertaining that this belief still floats around.


Originally posted by Time Trial
I disagree, I've built a lot of strength first power tackle breakers, and I have seen a lot more success since switching to carrying first.

Strength-based tackle breaking SAs are the exception, as Bort has noted that the effect of those SAs is based on the strength attribute.


I think (but am not sure) that it's because Romo is right when speaking of normal offensive dots (like HB and WR and such). But I also know that when building a RETURNER archetype carrying is listed as the big thing for breaking tackles... and I believe that is what TT is speaking of. The OP is about a returner archetype, so I'd side with TT on this one.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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If you want some insights into breaking tackles, use the tackle reporter script and do a little informal research. You should be able to understand why certain builds outperform others in specific situations.

I think this version still works: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/109346
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
If you want some insights into breaking tackles, use the tackle reporter script and do a little informal research. You should be able to understand why certain builds outperform others in specific situations.

I think this version still works: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/109346


This.

Using it right now, it works good.
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
If you want some insights into breaking tackles, use the tackle reporter script and do a little informal research. You should be able to understand why certain builds outperform others in specific situations.

I think this version still works: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/109346


Cool.....did not have that script.
 
Great Oak
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How trustworthy are the userscripts? Has anyone experienced anything abnormal after downloading them?
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by Great Oak
How trustworthy are the userscripts? Has anyone experienced anything abnormal after downloading them?


This monkey that is hanging from a ceiling fan clucking like a chicken with a bottle in his ass seems to pop up from time to time on my screen but other than that no issues.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Is this because you don't believe me or because I answered the question he forgot to ask? Too many people still treat carrying as the thing that helps prevent fumbles. Carrying lets your dot make tighter cuts too.

Carrying is not more important to breaking tackles than strength, although it is the second most important attribute. I'm also pretty sure that carrying has absolutely zero to do with making tighter cuts.


Originally posted by whodey08
To my knowledge it may but its a smaller amount versus jumping if a diving tackle is needed. I could be very wrong though. I have seen power HB's break tackle after tackle and then get taken down by a CB with little strength on a diving tackle.

lolno, otherwise DTs wouldn't miss so many of their diving tackle attempts on power backs up the middle. I'm pretty sure that against diving tackles jumping merely adds to the break tackle score derived from strength + carrying + SAs + VAs + AEQ.
 
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I am not really sure what to do with this mess.
 
BagO'Chips
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Originally posted by bhall43
I am not really sure what to do with this mess.


Dyson Ball Vacuums aren't bad.
 
fogie55
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thread reinforces the need for decent official documentation from GLB

ask a basic question = many different answers from people who genuinely believe they are correct
 
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Originally posted by fogie55
thread reinforces the need for decent official documentation from GLB

ask a basic question = many different answers from people who genuinely believe they are correct

There's only one me, though.
 
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