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I have +FF%, +MT%, +HB% and Big Hit SA as 4 of the 5 (including Bonus CE as well)

I have read from some that +BB% is not worth it on ST - should I add Monster Hit SA instead?

Have already added WUT and DT as bonus SA's (it's a Center STOP, so the run block tree is already available - beyond GL and RB, any others worth it in that tree after the CB nerf?

do STOPS block long enough to need BB% ?

I don't know, I am also asking a question ITT

Ya this is a good question

Is hazy around to answer it, so he ccan also pick.

BB works... but not quite as well on STOPS as it does on non-STOPS. I prefer agility to avoid/break blocks and would say you could find better AEQ for your STOPS. I would add that Hold Block does work well on STOPS. JMHO.

I would not purchase break block for a STOP.

Originally posted by jdbolick
I would not purchase break block for a STOP.

I would and have.

It's good for your OU2/OU5/IN4 guys.

What? Those are the players on whom it would be least valuable for since they're usually coming free. It's the others who regularly get blocked, but even then I greatly prefer other options.

Originally posted by jdbolick
What? Those are the players on whom it would be least valuable for since they're usually coming free. It's the others who regularly get blocked, but even then I greatly prefer other options.

While they may be unblocked initially, they still have to deal with the back wedge.

Sometimes, but if they're blocked at all then they're likely not going to make the play since that's the instant when the returner would run by. *shrug*

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
While they may be unblocked initially, they still have to deal with the back wedge.

If the back wedge holds all three long enough to prevent an attempted tackle, you've got problems with your base build more than your AEQ.

No, there's almost always contact that's made by the back wedge. And OF COURSE if they're blocked and it's held the returner is going to run by, lol. That's the point of the +% break block. It accentuates the strength that most quality ST'ers are going to have.

Not to argue good or bad ST coverage, but just view the interaction here:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2122491&pbp_id=3985717 - Return 1. OU2/OU5/IN4 free as usual. Back wedge engage as usual.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2122491&pbp_id=3987881 - Return 2. Same results.

and so on

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
No, there's almost always contact that's made by the back wedge. And OF COURSE if they're blocked and it's held the returner is going to run by, lol. That's the point of the +% break block. It accentuates the strength that most quality ST'ers are going to have.
Break block is valuable for players who are engaged in blocks often or over a prolonged period. The gunners you mentioned are only blocked for an instant, so that's very little for break block to work with. It's inadvisable for the same reasons I wouldn't put it on a blitzing cornerback.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Break block is valuable for players who are engaged in blocks often or over a prolonged period. The gunners you mentioned are only blocked for an instant, so that's very little for break block to work with.

This is where we disagree.

Just different opinions on +% break block's importance.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
No, there's almost always contact that's made by the back wedge. And OF COURSE if they're blocked and it's held the returner is going to run by, lol. That's the point of the +% break block. It accentuates the strength that most quality ST'ers are going to have.

Not to argue good or bad ST coverage, but just view the interaction here:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2122491&pbp_id=3985717 - Return 1. OU2/OU5/IN4 free as usual. Back wedge engage as usual.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2122491&pbp_id=3987881 - Return 2. Same results.

and so on

Those replays just support my contention. Adding or subtracting BB% there would have little to no impact in the ability of your gunners to tackle the returner.