Any draw backs by waiting for first boosts until day 48?
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
VAs
and being underleveled for most of career before plateau
VAs
and being underleveled for most of career before plateau
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
VAs
Has anyone done the math on this?
How many VPs are missed, versus how many points are gained from the training?
Might offset if you consider the attribute VAs.
VAs
Has anyone done the math on this?
How many VPs are missed, versus how many points are gained from the training?
Might offset if you consider the attribute VAs.
lexden11
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Originally posted by yello1
Has anyone done the math on this?
How many VPs are missed, versus how many points are gained from the training?
Might offset if you consider the attribute VAs.
tpat
Has anyone done the math on this?
How many VPs are missed, versus how many points are gained from the training?
Might offset if you consider the attribute VAs.
tpat
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Originally posted by tpaterniti
Background:
Both players I built as SS man-specialist, max height, min weight. Here is a rundown of my building method but i built them both pretty much exactly the same way.
Upgrades: Speed: 3, Agility: 3, Vision: 3, Jumping: 2, Tackling: 2, Strength: 2, Stamina: 2, Confidence: 1
Season 1 I intense trained Speed until it was almost done then Agility for a short time before beginning multi-training Agility, Vision, Jumping, Tackling. When Agility was almost done I switched it with Stamina. When Stamina was 33, I switched it with Confidence. When BTs would = 1470 (arbitrary number), I stopped multi-training (around day 170?), used light training to finish off the attributes I was multi-training, then switched to light training Confidence. When Confidence was 33 I switched it to Strength. When Strength was 30 I switched it to Stamina which was capped by then.
I added SPs in this order: Speed, Agility, Vision, Jumping, Tackling, Stamina, Confidence, Strength
PLEASE NOTE!!! This may not be a preferred build, it may not be your optimum method of training. This is irrelevant to the test I was performing. The significant thing is that I did everything for both player exactly the same except what I was testing, which was boosting 1 to 4 or not.
Results:
Player 1: Did NOT Boost from 1 to 4
Player Build
Position: ss_man_specialist
Season: 9
Day: 1
Boosts: 30
Level: 79
XP: 175
VA XP: 375
VA: 66
Bonus Tokens: 1471
Training Points: 0
SP: 38
Training Status:
strength : 26%
speed : 2%
agility : 4%
jumping : 2%
stamina : 3%
vision : 1%
confidence : 7%
blocking : 0%
throwing : 0%
catching : 0%
carrying : 0%
tackling : 4%
kicking : 0%
punting : 0%
Attributes:
strength : 60
speed : 100.06
agility : 91.06
jumping : 81.07
stamina : 60.26
vision : 86.07
confidence : 49.26
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 22.26
carrying : 8
tackling : 70.26
kicking : 8
punting : 8
Top SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Player 2: BOOSTED from 1 to 4
layer Build
Position: ss_man_specialist
Season: 9
Day: 1
Boosts: 30
Level: 79
XP: 25
VA XP: 675
VA: 68
Bonus Tokens: 1470
Training Points: 0
SP: 42
Training Status:
strength : 81%
speed : 6%
agility : 0%
jumping : 0%
stamina : 0%
vision : 1%
confidence : 4%
blocking : 0%
throwing : 0%
catching : 0%
carrying : 0%
tackling : 0%
kicking : 0%
punting : 0%
Attributes:
strength : 60
speed : 100.06
agility : 91.06
jumping : 81.07
stamina : 60.25
vision : 86.07
confidence : 49.26
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 22.26
carrying : 8
tackling : 70.26
kicking : 8
punting : 8
Top SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Comments:
Contrary to what I expected, player 2, who boosted from 1 to 4 was actually 4 SPs better than player 1 who did not boost from 1 to 4. As expected, player 2 also had 2 more VAs than player 1. Player 1 ended up with only 1 bonus token more than player 2, which I would consider negligible.
Conclusion:
The results seem definitive that it is better to boost from one to 4. You are able to compete the entire length of your build, you gain 2 VAs, and you are also 4 SPs better. I see no reason to not boost from 1 to 4. I think you would be hard pressed to find a more exact or definitive comparison than the test I ran.
Perhaps it could be argued that a multi-training approach season 1 would better take advantage of not boosting from 1 to 4 than the method I chose. I can test this out but I am not expecting a significant benefit over multi-training early and also boosting from 1 to 4. I will probably try this some other night.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
Background:
Both players I built as SS man-specialist, max height, min weight. Here is a rundown of my building method but i built them both pretty much exactly the same way.
Upgrades: Speed: 3, Agility: 3, Vision: 3, Jumping: 2, Tackling: 2, Strength: 2, Stamina: 2, Confidence: 1
Season 1 I intense trained Speed until it was almost done then Agility for a short time before beginning multi-training Agility, Vision, Jumping, Tackling. When Agility was almost done I switched it with Stamina. When Stamina was 33, I switched it with Confidence. When BTs would = 1470 (arbitrary number), I stopped multi-training (around day 170?), used light training to finish off the attributes I was multi-training, then switched to light training Confidence. When Confidence was 33 I switched it to Strength. When Strength was 30 I switched it to Stamina which was capped by then.
I added SPs in this order: Speed, Agility, Vision, Jumping, Tackling, Stamina, Confidence, Strength
PLEASE NOTE!!! This may not be a preferred build, it may not be your optimum method of training. This is irrelevant to the test I was performing. The significant thing is that I did everything for both player exactly the same except what I was testing, which was boosting 1 to 4 or not.
Results:
Player 1: Did NOT Boost from 1 to 4
Player Build
Position: ss_man_specialist
Season: 9
Day: 1
Boosts: 30
Level: 79
XP: 175
VA XP: 375
VA: 66
Bonus Tokens: 1471
Training Points: 0
SP: 38
Training Status:
strength : 26%
speed : 2%
agility : 4%
jumping : 2%
stamina : 3%
vision : 1%
confidence : 7%
blocking : 0%
throwing : 0%
catching : 0%
carrying : 0%
tackling : 4%
kicking : 0%
punting : 0%
Attributes:
strength : 60
speed : 100.06
agility : 91.06
jumping : 81.07
stamina : 60.26
vision : 86.07
confidence : 49.26
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 22.26
carrying : 8
tackling : 70.26
kicking : 8
punting : 8
Top SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Player 2: BOOSTED from 1 to 4
layer Build
Position: ss_man_specialist
Season: 9
Day: 1
Boosts: 30
Level: 79
XP: 25
VA XP: 675
VA: 68
Bonus Tokens: 1470
Training Points: 0
SP: 42
Training Status:
strength : 81%
speed : 6%
agility : 0%
jumping : 0%
stamina : 0%
vision : 1%
confidence : 4%
blocking : 0%
throwing : 0%
catching : 0%
carrying : 0%
tackling : 0%
kicking : 0%
punting : 0%
Attributes:
strength : 60
speed : 100.06
agility : 91.06
jumping : 81.07
stamina : 60.25
vision : 86.07
confidence : 49.26
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 22.26
carrying : 8
tackling : 70.26
kicking : 8
punting : 8
Top SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Comments:
Contrary to what I expected, player 2, who boosted from 1 to 4 was actually 4 SPs better than player 1 who did not boost from 1 to 4. As expected, player 2 also had 2 more VAs than player 1. Player 1 ended up with only 1 bonus token more than player 2, which I would consider negligible.
Conclusion:
The results seem definitive that it is better to boost from one to 4. You are able to compete the entire length of your build, you gain 2 VAs, and you are also 4 SPs better. I see no reason to not boost from 1 to 4. I think you would be hard pressed to find a more exact or definitive comparison than the test I ran.
Perhaps it could be argued that a multi-training approach season 1 would better take advantage of not boosting from 1 to 4 than the method I chose. I can test this out but I am not expecting a significant benefit over multi-training early and also boosting from 1 to 4. I will probably try this some other night.
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