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fogie55
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Jul 17, 2012 23:22:17

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I've been experimenting with this the last few seasons with DTs built to deflect passes.

one thing I've noticed is a high % of passes that are what I guess you'd call "tipped"--that is the DT gets credited with a PD but the ball is still caught at much higher rate of completion that when a LB/DB deflects a pass.

Anyone else ever experienced/noticed this? I don't have a big enough sample size to know for sure, but perhaps this something in the coding? I couldn't find anything in the Wiki about there ever being a Q&A question about this

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_replays.pl?player_id=4259452&game_id=2081991&top=1 five deflections, 40% still caught

Edited by fogie55 on Jul 17, 2012 23:23:17

Golan
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Jul 18, 2012 00:00:20

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I see 20% caught (1/5) the other ball caught was only a hurry.. It very rarely happens that a pass deflected by D-line gets caught, much less often than a ball deflect'ed by other defenders. It's kinda odd that it goes for an 11 yard gain, but probably it was just a very low quality deflection.

I scrolled through the dots other replays and there's only one other deflection caught (for 3.5 yards, which is reasonable) so no idea why you think this happens ALL the time.

Edited by Golan on Jul 18, 2012 00:07:13

fogie55
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Jul 18, 2012 04:33:00

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Originally posted by Golan
I see 20% caught (1/5) the other ball caught was only a hurry.. It very rarely happens that a pass deflected by D-line gets caught, much less often than a ball deflect'ed by other defenders. It's kinda odd that it goes for an 11 yard gain, but probably it was just a very low quality deflection.

I scrolled through the dots other replays and there's only one other deflection caught (for 3.5 yards, which is reasonable) so no idea why you think this happens ALL the time.
yeah, 40% my bad, but as a general observation, not just that one dot, and not saying ALL THE TIME, just more than for DBs/LBs and wondering if its coded that way.

found 17 deflections for that dot-- 9 were "clean" (deflected an otherwise catchable ball/not on a bad pass) and two of those were caught, so roughly 20% of catchable balls are caught after deflected and like 12% of all balls after deflected. Even that, to me, still seems to me like more catches than when a CB deflects a ball. Again, I don't have a good sample of a mature DL deflecting balls. will look for one in upper leagues and repost if I can find. my gut says there is something different about a DL deflection and a DB deflection though.

Q1 0:53 3rd & 16 OWN 24.5 NT John Deal pass to Dick Snyder over the middle [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q1 0:28 1st & 10 OWN 10 NT John Deal bad pass to Jordon Timmons up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q2 15:00 3rd & 6.5 OWN 13.5 NT John Deal bad pass to Grayson Levy, hurried by Maestro Sartori, up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q2 5:39 3rd & 9.5 OPP 46.5 NT Kenny McDonough pass to Remington Page, hurried by Robert Wadlow, up the left side, caught [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (12 yd gain) [tackle: Jack Tatum ]
Q4 0:35 3rd & 10 OWN 34.5 NT John Deal bad pass to Remington Page, hurried by Dwight Freeeeeeeeeney, up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q1 14:16 2nd & 8 OWN 37 NT Ken Kosar pass to Rashawn Dorsett up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q3 9:52 1st & 10 OWN 37.5 NT Sammy Spangler pass to Oliver Tambossa Jr, hurried by Matt Zomar, up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q2 0:26 2nd & 10 OWN 42 NT Mud Slut pass to wide 2012 up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q3 5:02 1st & 10 OPP 47.5 NT Kane Reese bad pass to Miguel Gonzalez up the left side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q4 1:26 3rd & 4.5 OWN 45 NT Colton Starks bad pass to Ron Dunbar, hurried by Chris Clemons Jr., up the right side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q1 3:07 3rd & 11 OWN 36 NT Cam Jam pass to Berners rTE over the middle [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q4 4:00 1st & 10 OWN 37.5 NT Quarter Cutler pass to hands o' stone over the middle [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)
Q4 1:30 3rd & 10 OWN 37 NT Quarter Cutler pass to Lewis E. Furr, hurried by Robert Wadlow, over the middle, caught [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (1.5 yd gain) [diving tackle: Robert Wadlow]
Q2 10:25 3rd & 16.5 OPP 30.5 DT Jordan Ambrose bad pass to Bruce McMahan, hurried by Frankie A. Rufus Jr., up the left side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q4 3:53 1st & 10 OWN 46 DT James Plunkett bad pass to Bruce McMahan, hurried by Zee Beez, up the left side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q2 1:00 3rd & 1.5 OWN 31 DT Robert Griffin The Fourth bad pass to Brennan Cisneros, hurried by Chris Clemons Jr., over the middle [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete - bad throw)
Q2 14:23 2nd & 11 OWN 48.5 DT Rob Shine pass to Tommy Carcetti up the left side [deflected by Robert Wadlow] (incomplete)

Edited by fogie55 on Jul 18, 2012 05:03:37

aaasahi
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Jul 18, 2012 08:21:45

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If you have interest you can watch my team's replay.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=74
All my D-line, except pass rush DE, have maximum towering man.
And I don't remember opponent catch the ball deflected by D-line.

fogie55
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Jul 18, 2012 14:26:01

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Originally posted by aaasahi
If you have interest you can watch my team's replay.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=74
All my D-line, except pass rush DE, have maximum towering man.
And I don't remember opponent catch the ball deflected by D-line.

thanks

gRryNn
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Jul 18, 2012 17:28:55

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Originally posted by aaasahi
If you have interest you can watch my team's replay.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=74
All my D-line, except pass rush DE, have maximum towering man.
And I don't remember opponent catch the ball deflected by D-line.

well ... that explains a lot then