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fogie55
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Originally posted by masterpooh
+1...But expect ZERO support from admin.
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not necessarily true...over several seasons I've had occasion to seek team movement and had success on occasion and hope at the very least. as soon as leagues are sorted and if its abundantly clear that your team just doesn't belong where its placed, contact support and plead your case. its in the best interests of everyone not to have deadwood in any conference.
 
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Yeah it seems you got screwed, did you contact support after team movements and tell them they made a mistake?
Edited by vinman on Jun 25, 2012 16:35:32
Edited by vinman on Jun 25, 2012 16:22:26
 
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Originally posted by vinman
Yeah it seems you got screwed, did you contact support after team movements and tell them they made a mistake?


No I didn't contact support. This happened to me a few seasons ago and when I went to them that time they told me there was nothing they could do for me so I didn't try this time 'cause I didn't think it would get me anything...
 
vinman
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Yeah you should have contacted support the same day tbh, no reason why they would have rejected your request. There are like 14 CPU teams in National Minor Casual #2
 
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Well I guess Kop was right, I am an idiot then
 
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nvm. already been said you shouldve contacted support.


on a side note. Honestly, support does rock. They've helped me quite a few times with league changes and other issues. If you ever have a big problem like that, just message support.
Edited by ProfessionalKop on Jun 25, 2012 20:37:14
Edited by ProfessionalKop on Jun 25, 2012 20:36:07
 
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Is a second league sort on the NGTH list? I know it's been mentioned over and over, but seems to address the league problems pretty well.

We have age caps on the leagues now. Why not number of human player, average player level, and average player value floors? Wouldn't require a time consuming human sort. Do the normal league promotion/relegation on day 41 and another on the final day of the offseason.

Doesn't solve all the problems, teams can still gut at any time. If a team/owner REALLY wants to win Reg. Pro #6 he can still sign all his guys on day -8 . Would clean up most of the issues. There really isn't a good reason to go into the preseason with obvious can't compete Nat. Pro teams when there are always seem to be enough Reg Pro teams with 45+ human players who average in the low-mid 70's in level at 1200 player value or greater to fill those slots.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=536
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=5409
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2776
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2945
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=910
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=232
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=4139
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1601
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=521
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1565
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2748
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1151

That's glancing through reg pro 1-3 undefeated teams.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop

on a side note. Honestly, support does rock. They've helped me quite a few times with league changes and other issues. If you ever have a big problem like that, just message support.


 
Alky
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They need to do something about farm teams and non-boosters who are in their own leagues that are private but still taking up a spot in the real league.
 
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Originally posted by threadkiller
Is a second league sort on the NGTH list? I know it's been mentioned over and over, but seems to address the league problems pretty well.

We have age caps on the leagues now. Why not number of human player, average player level, and average player value floors? Wouldn't require a time consuming human sort. Do the normal league promotion/relegation on day 41 and another on the final day of the offseason.


This seems like a good idea.
 
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Originally posted by threadkiller
Is a second league sort on the NGTH list? I know it's been mentioned over and over, but seems to address the league problems pretty well.

We have age caps on the leagues now. Why not number of human player, average player level, and average player value floors? Wouldn't require a time consuming human sort. Do the normal league promotion/relegation on day 41 and another on the final day of the offseason.

Doesn't solve all the problems, teams can still gut at any time. If a team/owner REALLY wants to win Reg. Pro #6 he can still sign all his guys on day -8 . Would clean up most of the issues. There really isn't a good reason to go into the preseason with obvious can't compete Nat. Pro teams when there are always seem to be enough Reg Pro teams with 45+ human players who average in the low-mid 70's in level at 1200 player value or greater to fill those slots.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=536
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=5409
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2776
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2945
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=910
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=232
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=4139
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1601
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=521
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1565
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2748
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=1151

That's glancing through reg pro 1-3 undefeated teams.


this is what i posted a few weeks ago in another thread.
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bort needs to stop caring what the ones that game the system think. does any one actually enjoy paying for teams that play half to 3/4 of their games as blowouts? even the elite leagues are filled with teams that dont belong there. bort answered this in the most recent Q&A, and tbh, his answer was pretty weak. the biggest worry about sorting teams into the right leagues is that many teams will game the system and not sign their players until they are placed in a lower league.

there's no reason to put teams into leagues on day 41, not since age based leagues came about. so day 41, put all the teams into the appropriate age "cloud". teams recruit for the rest of the off season. then on day -9, teams get sorted with a simple formula:
(high EL + median EL + average EL + lowest EL) / 4 this is your base EL
take the base EL and multiple it by the number of humans on the team then divide by 55 giving you your sort EL

now put the teams in order of the sort EL, top 32 go into league 1, next 32 into league 2, etc. now to stop the teams from signing all their studs at that point, each league will not only be given an age abut an EL limit. the EL limit can be set to the max team in the league, so if your studs are too high, they cant sign with you at the lower leagues. this encourages teams and players to get onto their teams during the off season if you want to make sure that you can be on that team. league #1 would have no EL limit, so all the best players will be forced into the top lagues once the preseason hits.

another way to push teams into appropriate leagues is to only give out trophies and count stats from the top 2 or 3 leagues for each age group. no more level 79s building huge stats against level 50s.

we'll never have competitive leagues as long as the stat whores dictate how leagues are set up.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
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youre the idiot that recruited the wrong age dots. You cant blame bort for you being in semi pro and recruiting national minors dots AND semi pro dots. thats just fucking ridiculous.


this is why there should be needed approval for owners so we dont have random people complaining because they dont understand how anything works. no wonder this game is just going downhill.


it's going downhill coz retards support the current system ...should have been changed a long time ago but the old faithful of WL have their heads so far up each others arses to notice how much of a change to the system is needed ...now the cracks are starting to show and GLB can die for all I care!
 
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its truly retarded that nothing has been done about this yet.

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Guppy's on to something. +1 to his suggestion. Seems very logical and will put teams together that should compete against each other.
 
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