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Hi all,

I was wondering what the veteran's take on AEQ extra's is.
Should you go for new Special Abilities or something that adds +% and if so, which would be the best ability/+%
I'm guessing this is highly dependent on build type and player position, so for example what would be useful for a deep passer QB?

Thanks,
Therzhin

I like 2 PQ% 1 PD% and then 1 TS piece

Frankly, I think the best use for AEQ pieces is for either %-values or end-of-tree SAs like spin for HBs or closing speed for FS, or shutdown coverage for CBs (note: I am giving examples, not saying what I would do in each of these cases).

For a passer QB in particular, the choice is usually very easy, as DSS said. I'd try for 1 AEQ piece as pass quality%, one as pass distance%, one in either tight spiral or pump fake (depending on how far you intend to go on each) and then your CEQ as another pass quality%.

so it's actually possible to have the same skill twice and getting double the bonus? or some kind of combined version (100% highest + 50% second highest etc...)

It is combined. IF you had two +10% pieces of AEQ, you'd end up with +15%. If you had 3 pieces, it would be 17,5%.

Each extra piece has it's value diminished by 50%

1st: 100%
2nd: 50%
3rd: 25%
4th 12,5%

In the case above, you'd get a +15% AEQ and a +12% CEQ to pass quality. The game takes the biggest one first and then adds half of the second, so 15% + 6% = 21%.

but does it work the same for skills, rather than +% bonuses

No. This mechanic is exclusive to % bonuses.

Originally posted by Therzhin
but does it work the same for skills, rather than +% bonuses

Skills simply accumulate. Example; AEQ piece is originally a +5 speed. If you added more speed (say 5 more) then it would simply add them together (5+5=+10 speed). Or, if you put the BT's into another skill (say agility), then it would simply remain a +5 speed along with the boosted skill (say you put 5 into agility... then it would be a +5 speed AND a +5 agility as well).

Okay, but consider I'm a QB and I have the tight spiral ability as a standard. Can I get a piece of AEQ with this skill as well and go above the maximum +10? Or is it maybe a good idea to use because the total level of the skill will be cheaper?

Originally posted by Therzhin
Okay, but consider I'm a QB and I have the tight spiral ability as a standard. Can I get a piece of AEQ with this skill as well and go above the maximum +10? Or is it maybe a good idea to use because the total level of the skill will be cheaper?

Sure you can.
You can stack, no limit.
But SA across 10 will face diminish return....
Generally 10~13 is good number for SA, don't stack more than this.

Originally posted by aaasahi
Sure you can.
You can stack, no limit.
But SA across 10 will face diminish return....
Generally 10~13 is good number for SA, don't stack more than this.

so its a much more efficient use of BTs to limit SA items to just 1 with any given SA, no need to ever really stack there

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Frankly, I think the best use for AEQ pieces is for either %-values or end-of-tree SAs...

or the good SAs not found in any tree like disguise blitz

Actually, I use the bonus SA (or the purchase extra SA feature) for those, and use AEQ in %-values and end-of-tree SAs almost exclusively, so I don't think I agree with you fogie55.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Actually, I use the bonus SA (or the purchase extra SA feature) for those, and use AEQ in %-values and end-of-tree SAs almost exclusively, so I don't think I agree with you fogie55.

seems like its cheaper (in overall combination of SPs and BTs) to do some of both, right. A few points from SPs and more from EQ.

I guess it depends a lot on the build, AT, number of total SAs the dots going to have, what you're going to do with the custom EQ add-ons, etc.

IMO put no more than one AEQ into any given SA. Getting it to ten by adding three to it (if its in your CEQ tree) is cheap enough at that point.

And definitely the high end SAs if you can get them cheaply in the shop.

I like to see, though, mostly whatever shows up in the shop. Just have to wait till higher level for it to be most efficient.