Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jdpbernal
Rage you can post and post in here for whatever its worth but contraction will not help improve the continuing trend of losing agents on this game. Maybe it will help in making it more competitive for the same agents playing this game.



If you don't improve competitiveness, the bleeding of agents is going to be that much faster. The best way to keep agents is to make games/leagues more competitive.

Contracting the Pro leagues or adding Hemisphere leagues so that you separate the top level 64-72 teams from the average level 64-72 teams is one way to do that.

It not only causes them to play more competitive games, it causes other teams to play more competitive games as well because they no longer have to be in a league with those teams beating the crap out of them.


While Pro did lose some prestige because of the WL, it has lost a lot more simply because it is too easy to get there. In order for Pro to mean something it should be hard to make it into Pro. There should be fierce competition to get into it and fierce competition to stay there once you do.

I want Pro to actually be Pro again, not AAA for the WL.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
If you don't improve competitiveness, the bleeding of agents is going to be that much faster. The best way to keep agents is to make games/leagues more competitive.

Contracting the Pro leagues or adding Hemisphere leagues so that you separate the top level 64-72 teams from the average level 64-72 teams is one way to do that.

It not only causes them to play more competitive games, it causes other teams to play more competitive games as well because they no longer have to be in a league with those teams beating the crap out of them.


While Pro did lose some prestige because of the WL, it has lost a lot more simply because it is too easy to get there. In order for Pro to mean something it should be hard to make it into Pro. There should be fierce competition to get into it and fierce competition to stay there once you do.

I want Pro to actually be Pro again, not AAA for the WL.

Rage you don't have to answer each and every post in this thread to try to convince everyone that this new restructuring will help foster competitiveness. Like what I said on a different post in here, my attitude will be a wait and see and I'll either choose to leave this game or stay.

Whether it is easy to get in here or not, its the fault of the promotion and demotion system. Teams can't be faulted to getting to Pro by simply making it an excuse of "it is easy to get here". Each team that got here deserves to be here because the adhered/followed the promotion system that the game currently has.

Again, will this change fix this? Who knows it may but again like what I said, I'll wait and see that's what I'm going to do.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by jdpbernal

Rage you can post and post in here for whatever its worth but contraction will not help improve the continuing trend of losing agents on this game. Maybe it will help in making it more competitive for the same agents playing this game.



If you don't improve competitiveness, the bleeding of agents is going to be that much faster. The best way to keep agents is to make games/leagues more competitive.

Contracting the Pro leagues or adding Hemisphere leagues so that you separate the top level 64-72 teams from the average level 64-72 teams is one way to do that.

It not only causes them to play more competitive games, it causes other teams to play more competitive games as well because they no longer have to be in a league with those teams beating the crap out of them.


While Pro did lose some prestige because of the WL, it has lost a lot more simply because it is too easy to get there. In order for Pro to mean something it should be hard to make it into Pro. There should be fierce competition to get into it and fierce competition to stay there once you do.

I want Pro to actually be Pro again, not AAA for the WL.

I agree, SGA has played 16 of 20 seasons in EEPro or WL and it used to be hard to make it here (I know, I gutted and had to fight my way back). I dont have the solutions, but do think that it needs to be cool to be Nat pro (somehow). Thats why I recomended some sort of incentive.

Right now there are 23 (8 national and 15 regional) pro teams, I feel there shouold be some sort of incentive to play vs tougher comp.

Originally posted by jdpbernal
Rage you don't have to answer each and every post in this thread to try to convince everyone that this new restructuring will help foster competitiveness. Like what I said on a different post in here, my attitude will be a wait and see and I'll either choose to leave this game or stay.

Whether it is easy to get in here or not, its the fault of the promotion and demotion system. Teams can't be faulted to getting to Pro by simply making it an excuse of "it is easy to get here". Each team that got here deserves to be here because the adhered/followed the promotion system that the game currently has.

Again, will this change fix this? Who knows it may but again like what I said, I'll wait and see that's what I'm going to do.





tbh, Wait and See and Leave or Stay is exactly the wrong way to go about it. The whole point of the thread is to get input from the userbase to see whats the best way to get everyone on board. Thus all stay. Waiting and seeing is like playing chicken with a semi in the road and saying "ill either live or die". Why dont you be proactive and say "lets just walk on the sidewalk"?

Originally posted by robponce
tbh, Wait and See and Leave or Stay is exactly the wrong way to go about it. The whole point of the thread is to get input from the userbase to see whats the best way to get everyone on board. Thus all stay. Waiting and seeing is like playing chicken with a semi in the road and saying "ill either live or die". Why dont you be proactive and say "lets just walk on the sidewalk"?

fighting the temptation

Originally posted by robponce
tbh, Wait and See and Leave or Stay is exactly the wrong way to go about it. The whole point of the thread is to get input from the userbase to see whats the best way to get everyone on board. Thus all stay. Waiting and seeing is like playing chicken with a semi in the road and saying "ill either live or die". Why dont you be proactive and say "lets just walk on the sidewalk"?

Ok so here are my thoughts....
If we want better competition, I agree merging the leagues is a pretty good solution.
USPL + CAPL = Americas Elite ===> 32 teams
EEPL + WEPL = Europe Elite =====> 32 teams
SEAPL + OPL = Asia Elite ========> 32 teams
AFL + SAPL = Africa Elite =========> 32 teams

128 teams will be displaced and they will go down to each of the regions' "Competitive" leagues.
Promotion and demotion is another story and that I leave up to you guys.

I would love to keep EEPL but there's no way to keep the region and its identity with the probable merging of each region.

Originally posted by bug03


You didn't do anything wrong and I'm not jumping your case at all, I'm sorry if it came off that way.

no offense taken..............i understand what you said

Originally posted by jdpbernal
Ok so here are my thoughts....
If we want better competition, I agree merging the leagues is a pretty good solution.
USPL + CAPL = Americas Elite ===> 32 teams
EEPL + WEPL = Europe Elite =====> 32 teams
SEAPL + OPL = Asia Elite ========> 32 teams
AFL + SAPL = Africa Elite =========> 32 teams

128 teams will be displaced and they will go down to each of the regions' "Competitive" leagues.
Promotion and demotion is another story and that I leave up to you guys.

I would love to keep EEPL but there's no way to keep the region and its identity with the probable merging of each region.




I have no problem with that at all