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My elusive back has it at 16% level 49.

Does anyone have a back with just %fake at 22% and can tell it works?

it works, but there are other factors depending on how high your Juke/HF SAs, vision, agility, etc are

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My HB is probably your average, run of the mill, Elusive Backs.. Nothing special build-wise..
Higher Agility than most, Lower Speed than Most..
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1657614 (Build Closed, sorry..)

I only have Juke at 3, Head Fake at 3 and Spin at 1 (all future SP's are dedicated to these tho) and he makes a lot of dots whiff..

21% Fake Chance
21% Break Tackle Chance

With 15 in Quick Feet = 30% Spin, Head Fake and Juke

Random replay from his last game..
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1528926&pbp_id=4995637

Just gotta accent your attributes.. if you have low agility and carrying Fake Chance isn't really going to be as effective as you hope..

Dont waste your time with a fake back. Theyre currently useless in this sim. Trust me.

I use a fake % piece and I think it's working quite well.. I have 8 in Juke & 5 in HF; so I think combined with that it is beneficial..

Originally posted by L_R
Dont waste your time with a fake back. Theyre currently useless in this sim. Trust me.

Not true...I have witnessed numerous runs by certain backs this season that contained 2-4 HF/Jukes during runs....and for the record I am referring to Pro/WL HBs so fix ur build

Originally posted by dss02
Not true...I have witnessed numerous runs by certain backs this season that contained 2-4 HF/Jukes during runs....and for the record I am referring to Pro/WL HBs so fix ur build

+1... Pro HB here and #1 in rushing this year in his conference.. with fake%..

FWIW though, we run the hell out of the ball so my HB gets lots of opportunities..

Originally posted by dss02
Not true...I have witnessed numerous runs by certain backs this season that contained 2-4 HF/Jukes during runs....and for the record I am referring to Pro/WL HBs so fix ur build

Maybe Im just cursed then. 130+ speed 90 agility 75 vision 79 carrying +33% fake AEQ 10 HF 15 Juke...

Even last season when he had a Pro League MVP equipment it was still useless. Bt% backs > all currently.

*edit*

Im not saying you can't fake anyone, because I have no problem doing that. The problem is they recover WAY too fast. Most of the time I shrink the dot and it can still make the tackle.

Also forgot to add 6 in Open Field Fake and all the applicable fake VAs.

I think if you were on a better team L R you're results would be better. 1-5 casual pro team isn't helping your efforts. More carries would also help out a bit. This season is much better than last in that aspect but still nothing to write home about. Before season 19 your guy was pretty effective imo.

With that being said I look at fake backs like home run hitters with a .280 avg. When you get the big one it's very nice and can fake multiple guys for 50+ yard gains, but when you don't do that you're getting 3-5 ypc which isn't terrible.

I still think fake backs have their place in GLB, although if you have a back who is good at both, he's much better in the current sim.

I think you just don't get enough rushes L R.. If you've got those kinds of numbers, you should be doing quite well.. My HB is at comparable numbers with speed, agility, vision and carrying and he's breakin' off some good runs at times.. That's the thing though; he has to get some touches to get a shot at making one of those big plays..

Eh, I wish I had one on HB, but he fakes pretty good without it, he would be crap without his BT% piece though.

BT% helps even without a BT SA imo. High carrying +BT% will break tackles all by itself.

Originally posted by L_R
The problem is they recover WAY too fast.


But they're usually making a really crappy tackle attempt that can be broken pretty easily. Drop one fake piece for a BT% piece and he might break it open more.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
But they're usually making a really crappy tackle attempt that can be broken pretty easily. Drop one fake piece for a BT% piece and he might break it open more.

I wish I had a piece of BT% to go along with the fake piece.. I opted for 2 spin pieces instead and he can't have a 4th piece.. I've thought of switchin' one of those spin pieces, but he's done pretty well as is so I've left it alone..

With every defender these days being preached to take Vision to 72+. Fake back/WR is just a no-no. It may work at lower tiers, but when you get into the tougher top leagues... It just won't work. Your better off focusing on making breaking the vision mongers' tackles.