Warrior General Games

Which setup would be best for a guy who was lots of speed, 80 agility, and 77 carrying:

1) 60 strength, 68 vision, fake piece, break tackle piece, juke, spin
2) 68 strength, 60 vision, fake piece, break tackle, juke, spin
3) 68 strength, 50 vision (use these saved points to go to higher stamina or 73 str), 2X break tackle, 2x spin (or one spin, one quick cut.. basically give up on trying to elude people)

you dont want ur str to high

you dont want to activate David vs Goliath so i would go with option 1

Originally posted by Demboyz
you dont want ur str to high

you dont want to activate David vs Goliath so i would go with option 1

so not right.

Originally posted by whatje
so not right.
Then what's your answer? It ticks me off when someone says someone else isn't right, but is too shy to proclaim what their own choice is.

I personally most like choice 1; however, I'd like to see the AEQ different. Go either double fake % or double brTk %, depending on how the OC uses the HB. Then, based on your choice, focus your SA's on that % with either a ton of Juke or Spin. Note that you don't need high str if you're an elusive spin back. Spin operates off agility and carrying and while str does indeed help, you'll be killing more birds with one stone by going more carrying for the bonus to fumble avoidance. Fumbles have been a huge issue lately in Pro from what I've seen, so when in doubt, extra carrying into the 80's is a legit consideration.

i really don't care what makes you upset. nor do i feel any need to help you out. simply put, i'm telling the OP that the advice demboyz is giving him is summarily incorrect.

the obvious implication of my response? you do want strength higher. sorry you didn't pick up on that, but that's not my problem either

y would you want 70+ str on an elusive back unless you are a pure spin back? (serious ?)

fumbleitis is a pretty huge problem if your strength is too low. also, if ur an elusive and ur not using spin...urdoinitrong. doesn't have to be your primary thing, but why you wouldn't have it is beyond me.

Originally posted by whatje
fumbleitis is a pretty huge problem if your strength is too low. also, if ur an elusive and ur not using spin...urdoinitrong. doesn't have to be your primary thing, but why you wouldn't have it is beyond me.

1 or 2 I'd say. It's not possible to have 68 str and 68 vision? That'd be more ideal... If not I'd go vision first.

i won't say vision is terrible since some people are big believers in it...but i've had very successful HBs that have comparatively low vision (40s and 50s). the one HB i have with 60+ vision never seemed to get any substantial benefit from it.

...whatje you are wrong. DVG is a problem and thus you should keep your strength between 60-66. I have had a successful spin back with 50 strength.

Originally posted by Nuge20
...whatje you are wrong. DVG is a problem and thus you should keep your strength between 60-66. I have had a successful spin back with 50 strength.

i'm not saying it won't work, i'm saying it's not worth keeping your strength down there. also depends substantially on competition. actually, on top of that, i don't think i ever even mentioned DvG.

Originally posted by whatje
so not right.

you responded with that after someone brought up keeping strength down to prevent DvG activation.

fair, i guess i should've solo quoted the first part

Up until last season I found that vision past low 50s hurt HBs. Now, 68 vision may actually pretty ideal for an elusive back

Originally posted by mcallero
Up until last season I found that vision past low 50s hurt HBs. Now, 68 vision may actually pretty ideal for an elusive back

why?