I'm sure that breack block is one of this, but how many AEQ to buy and what abillities use ?
Thanks man.
Thanks man.
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Originally posted by bighoppa67
2x break block, 1 First step, 1 TV if you can swing it.
+1!
now the question remains if you upgrade them with AGI or SPD. it was AGI but now it could probably be speed...
2x break block, 1 First step, 1 TV if you can swing it.
+1!
now the question remains if you upgrade them with AGI or SPD. it was AGI but now it could probably be speed...
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Originally posted by Todd Toddy
+1!
now the question remains if you upgrade them with AGI or SPD. it was AGI but now it could probably be speed...
Definitely spd. See the thread by Kinard.
+1!
now the question remains if you upgrade them with AGI or SPD. it was AGI but now it could probably be speed...
Definitely spd. See the thread by Kinard.
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Definitely spd. See the thread by Kinard.
Depends on the age of your player. If he's in EP right now, then speed.
But you never build your new dots based on the current sim. I'd imagine that speed builds will be solved eventually.
Definitely spd. See the thread by Kinard.
Depends on the age of your player. If he's in EP right now, then speed.
But you never build your new dots based on the current sim. I'd imagine that speed builds will be solved eventually.
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Originally posted by risico
2 or 3 pieces of break block
Tunnel Vision
Shed Block/First Step
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
2 or 3 pieces of break block
Tunnel Vision
Shed Block/First Step
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
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Originally posted by aird88
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
Errm....break block does not max at 30%.
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
Errm....break block does not max at 30%.
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Speed builds are great this season, but long term, they'll be fixed. To me, Agility is going to be the long-term answer for pass-rush DEs. With this said...
The following advice assumes you've got:
80+ base Agility
15 Technique Man
Potentially 15 into Heavyweight
Get pieces in this order:
1. +3 Speed/Agility, +5% Break Block
2. +3 Speed/Agility, +1 Shed Block (I can say from first-hand experience that this is AMAZING when used with a Break Block piece.)
3. +3 Speed/Agility, +1 Tunnel Vision (I know a lot of people like this to come second, but I like Shed Block better when used in conjunction BB, Technique Man, and Heavyweight. It makes for an essentially unblockable DE when done well)
4. +3 Speed/Agility, +5% Break Block (this is last because of diminishing marginal returns to +% pieces)
Don't worry about getting a First Step piece. This is the first skill on the pass-rush tree so it is quite cheap to max out relative to Shed Block and Tunnel Vision.
The following advice assumes you've got:
80+ base Agility
15 Technique Man
Potentially 15 into Heavyweight
Get pieces in this order:
1. +3 Speed/Agility, +5% Break Block
2. +3 Speed/Agility, +1 Shed Block (I can say from first-hand experience that this is AMAZING when used with a Break Block piece.)
3. +3 Speed/Agility, +1 Tunnel Vision (I know a lot of people like this to come second, but I like Shed Block better when used in conjunction BB, Technique Man, and Heavyweight. It makes for an essentially unblockable DE when done well)
4. +3 Speed/Agility, +5% Break Block (this is last because of diminishing marginal returns to +% pieces)
Don't worry about getting a First Step piece. This is the first skill on the pass-rush tree so it is quite cheap to max out relative to Shed Block and Tunnel Vision.
Edited by Oofty on Sep 28, 2010 19:04:34
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Originally posted by aird88
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
Why bother getting AEQ in skills that are first and second respectively on the skill tree? Change Direction experiences more severe diminishing marginal returns at higher levels than any other DE SA in my opinion.
Break block maxes at 30 percent I just found out the hard way. Only get 1 piece in break block and go for a skill such as change direction or first step and get two pieces in those. +10 first step and +10 change direction will help your DE get around blockers but will also allow him to change direction quickly and to kill outside runners. I haven't tried this yet as my pieces look like this:
Superior Black Shirt
+11 speed, +5 Tunnel Vision SA
Superior Orange Visor
+8 agility, +2 tackling, Break block chance +21%
Right now I have a first step piece I am working on but I have not yet equipped it bc my normal piece is still better.
Why bother getting AEQ in skills that are first and second respectively on the skill tree? Change Direction experiences more severe diminishing marginal returns at higher levels than any other DE SA in my opinion.
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