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i was expecting a new team in canada...

i got this team with a former clown of an owner...
i inherited a 2.1 mil payrll with a 2.4 mil on hand...

i made the decision to gut the team and start from scratch....too many training whore stealing money and not even tryng

i unfortunatley had to get rid of good players and a few good agent/owners....i feel bad about doing what i did....but i had to get control of the team....

after all we won 1 exhibition game alll time....
enjoy your win this year against us

Originally posted by Fingaz10

i made the decision togut the team and start from scratch....too many training whore stealing money and not even tryng

i unfortunatley had to get rid of good players and a few good agent/owners....i feel bad about doing what i did....but i had to get control of the team....

after all we won 1 exhibition game alll time....
enjoy your win this year against us

um... gutting is not allowed... Be prepared for Bort to fine you pretty much all the money you got in trades...

Originally posted by jasonshepp
Originally posted by Fingaz10


i made the decision togut the team and start from scratch....too many training whore stealing money and not even tryng

i unfortunatley had to get rid of good players and a few good agent/owners....i feel bad about doing what i did....but i had to get control of the team....

after all we won 1 exhibition game alll time....
enjoy your win this year against us

um... gutting is not allowed... Be prepared for Bort to fine you pretty much all the money you got in trades...

I believe he meant that he cut the entire roster to hire new players with a fresh start, which isn't gutting. (Just an unfortunate choice of words)

He's doing what most owners of new teams do... cut everyone he doesn't like and starting fresh. Perfectly legal.

Originally posted by treygreen13
Originally posted by jasonshepp

Originally posted by Fingaz10



i made the decision togut the team and start from scratch....too many training whore stealing money and not even tryng

i unfortunatley had to get rid of good players and a few good agent/owners....i feel bad about doing what i did....but i had to get control of the team....

after all we won 1 exhibition game alll time....
enjoy your win this year against us

um... gutting is not allowed... Be prepared for Bort to fine you pretty much all the money you got in trades...

I believe he meant that he cut the entire roster to hire new players with a fresh start, which isn't gutting. (Just an unfortunate choice of words)

He's doing what most owners of new teams do... cut everyone he doesn't like and starting fresh. Perfectly legal.

He went from 2.something to 9.something million... He DEFINATLY traded everyone...

LIke i said....i had to get control of the team...witht hat much talent on hand and that team wasnt even really competing.....

i didnt gut the team to make another better...i did nothing illeagal....i just busted a florida marlins...except the Aztecs never won sh!t....

I have no intention of rolling over or laying down.....i just decided...i'd rather have a team full of MY players and My signings...when i got control of the team there were like 20-30 messages on our team forum asking for releasess.....

like i said i didnt "gut " the team to get an advantage elsewhere...i gutted to get the aztecs ready for our season 5 playoff run......

last thing...get no trade clauses
i didnt want a rebuilding team but i got one and i just did what was best for me

Originally posted by Fingaz10
LIke i said....i had to get control of the team...witht hat much talent on hand and that team wasnt even really competing.....

i didnt gut the team to make another better...i did nothing illeagal....i just busted a florida marlins...except the Aztecs never won sh!t....

I have no intention of rolling over or laying down.....i just decided...i'd rather have a team full of MY players and My signings...when i got control of the team there were like 20-30 messages on our team forum asking for releasess.....

like i said i didnt "gut " the team to get an advantage elsewhere...i gutted to get the aztecs ready for our season 5 playoff run......

last thing...get no trade clauses
i didnt want a rebuilding team but i got one and i just did what was best for me

All I'm saying was is that the position of the Admins is to fine teams who do exactly what you did most, if not all, the money they acquired. If you get by, lucky you.

The Aztecs have been kind of a mess for awhile in an otherwise good league. I'm just glad that somebody who cares is at the helm.

Originally posted by jasonshepp
Originally posted by Fingaz10

LIke i said....i had to get control of the team...witht hat much talent on hand and that team wasnt even really competing.....

i didnt gut the team to make another better...i did nothing illeagal....i just busted a florida marlins...except the Aztecs never won sh!t....

I have no intention of rolling over or laying down.....i just decided...i'd rather have a team full of MY players and My signings...when i got control of the team there were like 20-30 messages on our team forum asking for releasess.....

like i said i didnt "gut " the team to get an advantage elsewhere...i gutted to get the aztecs ready for our season 5 playoff run......

last thing...get no trade clauses
i didnt want a rebuilding team but i got one and i just did what was best for me

All I'm saying was is that the position of the Admins is to fine teams who do exactly what you did most, if not all, the money they acquired. If you get by, lucky you.



As an owner why should i be penalized for the previous owners mistakes.....If i start from scratch...bring my guys in....build a team and chemisrty....why wait??? why let me chemistry grace period pass by....my team has no stadium upgrades at all...nothing..i already sank 3 million in the stadium....i would of had 400,000 to make any moves......and the team sucked...and alot of people wanted off....do you think it would be a good owners move to cut everyone and lose the franchises investment in them....no i recovered what i could to build a champion.....

the admins fine people who gut teams and bail....or gut teams and build up other teams.....i'm doing this for "MY TEAM" "ThIS TEAM" how is that unfair at all

is getting a messed up franchise unfair???? NO
cus i can make moves....like i did

That's your team, you do what you think it right. Good luck to you

---------- Original message ----------
From: Fingaz10
Date: Jun 18, 2008 17:03:06
Subject: NEED clarification please
To: Thorn

sorry to bother a busy man with this...but im being accused of cheating and want this addressed please

yesterday i aqquired a team in bbb7 the SD aztecs.....a team with 2.1 payroll 2.6 on hand
no stadium upgrades.... i've already put 3 million in the stadium....the team was 1-22 lifetime ( 1 win was exhibition)..a few questionable contracts with bonuses
a few players who were training over winning ( mostly the owners players who he hooked up before leaving)
a list of 10-20 guys who wanted off the team


so i traded as many guys as i could...( a dick move, but good owners have to be) ..cleared the roster for my players....so i could control the team to WIN
similar to HONOLULU in bbb8 last year
build a team and chemistry from the start
I plan on owning this team for life
i've hooked no other teams up...what i did was a selfish move for MY TEAM..
is anything i did illegal???


I PM'd thorn for clarification on my moves....

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From:
Thorn Date Sent:
Jun 18, 2008 20:34:29 Subject:
Re: NEED clarification please
If you are trading the guys on the team for fair market value this is fine. If you were ripping off another team for millions of dollars for level 8 guys, this would be bad.
From what you describe it just sounds like you're going through a transition process on your team, and probably aren't doing anything illegal.
-Thorn


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thanks for the support fictionmike and just1idiot

There's nothing wrong with what Fingaz is doing. Usually gutting involves signing your players to huge signing bonuses and then screwing everyone else at the expense of the team's finances. He's getting his players on his team. There's nothing wrong with that.

haha

Well good luck Aztec and I'd put almost all your moeny into your stadium if I was you and get level 12 and lower players to fill your roster. In 2 season's you'll be able to compete with anyone but the teams that have entire rosters of boosters like teh USA Pro League but those teams will be moving up.

I don't see a problem with what you did based on the information contained in this thread. Welcome to BBB#7, and good luck with re-building. I know you weren't expecting to take over a re-building effort.