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Which would be the best to cap first STR, SPD or AGI?
I haven't spent any SPs yet and am currently sitting at 40. Is SPD or AGI better after STR when wanting to get around the OT?

Thanks for your input.

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There are 2 types of DE's and it depends on which you want to create.
The power DE should have strength capped first followed by agility and vision with speed coming forth. I've never created one of these so I'm not sure how effective they are although the one on my team does okay and gets a sack or 2.
The fineness DE Can have speed or agility capped first and the other capped second with vision and strength next respectively. I prefer to cap speed first myself while training vision and agility and then training strength and tackling while capping agility first and then vision.
I know most people will tell you not to put anything into SA's until you reach level 17 or higher but if you put a point or 2 in each level up you will find your player will be loaded when they do take effect. First step , Change direction , and Shed block are the important SA's to work on. good luck.

Thanks for the input. The SPD/AGI DE is what I plan on doing with him and am placing all EQ into SPD.

Originally posted by oldbaldone
There are 2 types of DE's and it depends on which you want to create.
The power DE should have strength capped first followed by agility and vision with speed coming forth. I've never created one of these so I'm not sure how effective they are although the one on my team does okay and gets a sack or 2.
The fineness DE Can have speed or agility capped first and the other capped second with vision and strength next respectively. I prefer to cap speed first myself while training vision and agility and then training strength and tackling while capping agility first and then vision.
I know most people will tell you not to put anything into SA's until you reach level 17 or higher but if you put a point or 2 in each level up you will find your player will be loaded when they do take effect. First step , Change direction , and Shed block are the important SA's to work on. good luck.

Horrible advice, as usual. Is there no way to ban this guy? Frankly... You know NOTHING of the game, NOTHING of making good players (let alone linemen) and still act like you know it all. DUDE. SHUT UP! Every single piece of advice you gave recently has been bad advice!

Now to properly answer the original post:

First: No SAs till level 38+. It's the best for you. That means you take the most advantage of levelup growth.
Second, no matter what your DE is, if you don't get your strength up to healthy amounts (72+) by level 35, you're frankly screwed.
Third, if you are sitting on 40 SPs, you are already doing it wrong. You should apply SPs as soon as you can get your currently focused attribute to the cap. On a DE this means level 2.
Fourth, as a general rule of building players, don't spread points around. Never spread points around. EVER.
Fifth, also as a general rule of building players, ignore oldbaldone.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Horrible advice, as usual. Is there no way to ban this guy? Frankly... You know NOTHING of the game, NOTHING of making good players (let alone linemen) and still act like you know it all. DUDE. SHUT UP! Every single piece of advice you gave recently has been bad advice!

Now to properly answer the original post:

First: No SAs till level 38+. It's the best for you. That means you take the most advantage of levelup growth.
Second, no matter what your DE is, if you don't get your strength up to healthy amounts (72+) by level 35, you're frankly screwed.
Third, if you are sitting on 40 SPs, you are already doing it wrong. You should apply SPs as soon as you can get your currently focused attribute to the cap. On a DE this means level 2.
Fourth, as a general rule of building players, don't spread points around. Never spread points around. EVER.
Fifth, also as a general rule of building players, ignore oldbaldone.

Ya it's terrible advise. That's why my DE has a has a crap load of trophies including a mvp trophy and your DE was so good you dumped him at level 17 .

Originally posted by oldbaldone
Ya it's terrible advise. That's why my DE has a has a crap load of trophies including a mvp trophy and your DE was so good you dumped him at level 17 .

... Your DE is a level 29 non-booster or SSB ...

Please shut up now. You are making a fool of yourself. Look around the forum. Really, look around. EVERYONE is telling you your advices are SHIT. Guess why? CAUSE THEY ARE.

Your trophies are meaningless, you sacrifice your player's long-term value for some glory in the minor leagues. CONGRATULATIONS. You are good at getting pointless gifs. Now when you get a player that can be good in the endgame, talk to me.

And btw, all my players were retired at once as a protest against the crappy state of the cloud some seasons ago. Don't use that as an argument. I also retired my MVP kr/pr with trophies in every season he existed.

Anyway I'm making a new DE, and I'm willing to bet you will see his effectiveness in 5 seasons. Know where your DE will be in 5 seasons? Still in the minors. Congrats.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Horrible advice, as usual. Is there no way to ban this guy? Frankly... You know NOTHING of the game, NOTHING of making good players (let alone linemen) and still act like you know it all. DUDE. SHUT UP! Every single piece of advice you gave recently has been bad advice!

Now to properly answer the original post:

First: No SAs till level 38+. It's the best for you. That means you take the most advantage of levelup growth.
Second, no matter what your DE is, if you don't get your strength up to healthy amounts (72+) by level 35, you're frankly screwed.
Third, if you are sitting on 40 SPs, you are already doing it wrong. You should apply SPs as soon as you can get your currently focused attribute to the cap. On a DE this means level 2.
Fourth, as a general rule of building players, don't spread points around. Never spread points around. EVER.
Fifth, also as a general rule of building players, ignore oldbaldone.

I agree with not putting anything into SA's at an early level, unless you get some AEQ that has an SA. As far as not spending the SP, I remember hearing, some time ago, that you want to continue to train until your main attribute is in the 30's before spending SP. Currently my DE's STR is just below 30 (28). I was going to wait until I had enough SPs built up to get the STR up to 61 w/ SP's and then focus on SPD/AGI. This was the original plan and I also had all my EQ in STR until I read somewhere to place the EQ in SPD for a Pass Rushing DE so I switched my EQ into SPD.

Originally posted by bigdog38
I agree with not putting anything into SA's at an early level, unless you get some AEQ that has an SA. As far as not spending the SP, I remember hearing, some time ago, that you want to continue to train until your main attribute is in the 30's before spending SP. Currently my DE's STR is just below 30 (28). I was going to wait until I had enough SPs built up to get the STR up to 61 w/ SP's and then focus on SPD/AGI. This was the original plan and I also had all my EQ in STR until I read somewhere to place the EQ in SPD for a Pass Rushing DE so I switched my EQ into SPD.

You should go to 49 first to take advantage of the levelup growth, not directly to 61, you end up spending more SP that way.

NOTE: I don't mean spend sp elsewhere. Spend all SP on strength, but take it to the first cap to take advantage of ALG.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
You should go to 49 first to take advantage of the levelup growth, not directly to 61, you end up spending more SP that way.

NOTE: I don't mean spend sp elsewhere. Spend all SP on strength, but take it to the first cap to take advantage of ALG.

Thanks Hagalaz. I went ahead and spent some of the SP and placed it in STR. After my last level up I have enough to take it to 61. Should I do that now or continue to save some more for now before spending them?

As soon as you have SPs to get to a cap, you should do it, unless you plan on training the attribute.

Originally posted by Sirwin
Originally posted by Hagalaz

As soon as you have SPs to get to a cap, you should do it, unless you plan on training the attribute.



This ^

And you should be thinking about 2nd capping your primary attribute before you move on. If it's pass rush, go agility and take that to the 3:1 cap at 60 something before 2:1 capping speed. Then you can bring the other shit along like strength. But you need those auto gains to hit your attribute points as hard as possible. I don't remember what the level is off hand, but by the time you get to level 27 or so the auto gain drops a lot and your build is either awesome or total shit and you're stuck with it.