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Since80
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What caps should I take AGI and SPD to?

73/60? 73/68? 68/68? 68/60?

Right defensive end pass rusher.

Thanks.
 
bjensen23
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I'm debating the same thing... right now I have 75 speed / 70 agility... I stopped at 68 for both and the level gains have gotten them that far. He is a level 27 DE and has 57 strength and I'm debating on getting strength to 60 or 68....
 
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68/68 is a bare minimum, 73/73 is more reasonable. There is a large crowd that will even suggest pushing one or both to 77, but you have to be able to get strength to 73 at least, and vision/tackling to 60.
 
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80/80 ASAP. But you may have already deviated from that plan. I get both to 7-1 ratio. Same with DTs and STR/AGI. Either shoot for the min. to get instant results or keep getting better your entire career. 57 STR at lvl 27 means something else got neglected unless dudes making a STR LE. Elite Pass Rush DEs will have 110 SPD 90 AGI or vice versa.
 
Since80
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Originally posted by trichome1
80/80 ASAP.


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Balls Models
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it depends on how much strength you want him to have.

imo, you need to take speed, agility, and strength all to 77 (or 80)... it's just a question of in what order you want to hit your caps, and where you want to put your equipment.
 
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Bornwitta "Big Black" Johnson (Lv. 57 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 253lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $30496
Daily Salary: $6332
Skill Points: 2
Training Points: 3
Bonus Tokens: 6
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 90/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 110.69 (+27)
Speed: 81.69
Agility: 89.69 (+6)
Jumping: 24.79
Stamina: 44.79
Vision: 60.79
Confidence: 48.79

Football Skills
Blocking: 17.79
Catching: 8
Tackling: 65.69
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 3
Change Direction: 3
Shed Blocks: 3
Tunnel Vision: 1
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Bull Rusher: 15
Heavyweight: 8
Jump the Snap: 2
Pass Rusher: 15




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Since80
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Originally posted by Balls Models
it depends on how much strength you want him to have.

imo, you need to take speed, agility, and strength all to 77 (or 80)... it's just a question of in what order you want to hit your caps, and where you want to put your equipment.


Enough strength to be effective. He's level 8 right now and I'm dumping points into AGI right now. Currently he is at 63.5 AGI and I am going to take it to at least 68 before I move to SPD next. I'm just wondering if I should keep going past 68 AGI, to 73 or 77 or 80 before moving on to SPD?

Here's the pertinent aspects of his build. Currently training SPD/TCK. Will move to STR/TCK once I start capping SPD.

Super Bee II (Lv. 8 DE)

Ht/Wt: 6'2", 245lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 11.5
Speed: 33.5
Agility: 73.5 (+10)
Jumping: 11.4
Stamina: 13.4
Vision: 11.4
Confidence: 11.4

Football Skills
Blocking: 11.4
Catching: 8
Tackling: 14.5
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
 
Since80
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Originally posted by lebasquiat
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That's interesting, because I didn't think to put EQ into STR. I'm going to work a second set up that is STR based.
 
VicJericho
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At 100 agility (with equipment), should I put EQ in Strength? Speed is at 76 and Strength is at 61. I feel like more EQ in agility wouldn't help without strength to supplement.
 
Balls Models
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on my RDE, who has been pretty good, i have eq split pretty even between strength, speed, and agility. with equipment, at level 56, all of those are 90+

that's not to say that is the "correct" way to do it.

you'll have to figure out what order to do what on your own. i'm really no expert.
 
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I would take speed, agility, and strength all to 77. I'm not a big fan of taking things past that point for 4+ major positions, but I know some like to.

I don't think you can build a remotely effective higher-level DE these days if you stop at 68 on any of the big three.
 
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Thanks, everyone. 77/77 it is.
 


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