i love you too fool! 
(ok maybe a little homo)
(ok maybe a little homo)
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I'm not here to start a fight or keep one going. I just have a legit question about CMM's farm team. I was looking at haole's profile and couldn't figure out if you had one and if so, which one it was.
CMM should get respect for what they've done between the lines and for the most part, I believe they have here in SEAPL.
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
I know that Winona came in here in a not so perfect manner but I believe that they deserve some respect for the effort that they put into their games, etc. They actually over achieved their first season and were either in the playoffs or at least were in the hunt every season, I believe. I'm not saying that Winona was the class of SEAPL or better than other teams, because they obviously were not. I just think we got a reputation and there has been a lot of unnecessary hate towards us ever since. Jesus, learn how to take a joke. That was what Mad Cow's original posts were supposed to be. I actually found them to be humorous and asked him to do something similar (not to the same extent) in SEA AAA 1 in the following season.
CMM should get respect for what they've done between the lines and for the most part, I believe they have here in SEAPL.
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
I know that Winona came in here in a not so perfect manner but I believe that they deserve some respect for the effort that they put into their games, etc. They actually over achieved their first season and were either in the playoffs or at least were in the hunt every season, I believe. I'm not saying that Winona was the class of SEAPL or better than other teams, because they obviously were not. I just think we got a reputation and there has been a lot of unnecessary hate towards us ever since. Jesus, learn how to take a joke. That was what Mad Cow's original posts were supposed to be. I actually found them to be humorous and asked him to do something similar (not to the same extent) in SEA AAA 1 in the following season.
Edited by bighookworm on Feb 21, 2010 20:38:05
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worm, your a classy guy. mad respect. and the LLL's are our farm team. As well as the Cave Men.
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Originally posted by bighookworm
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
no offense to you, hook, you seem like a swell guy, but thats about the worst plan Ive ever heard of.
never listen to snaza again.
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
no offense to you, hook, you seem like a swell guy, but thats about the worst plan Ive ever heard of.
never listen to snaza again.
Edited by Victory Jones on Feb 21, 2010 21:38:57
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Originally posted by MDterpsBBall03
worm, your a classy guy. mad respect. and the LLL's are our farm team. As well as the Cave Men.
Thanks.
I just took a look at the LLL's and your HB, #21 Marion Barber, better be fucking legit! I actually had pride in the Gopher's football team when we had Barber and Maroney and even Russell.
Speaking from experience, you might want to wait at least one or two seasons (depending on the amount of gutting here in SEAPL) before you bring them up here. We're having a hard enough time in our 10th season. Either way, we'd love to play you guys, assuming we haven't tucked our tails and hit the reset button. I think we might be able to hang on for two more seasons up here. Three if we're feeling froggish.
worm, your a classy guy. mad respect. and the LLL's are our farm team. As well as the Cave Men.
Thanks.
I just took a look at the LLL's and your HB, #21 Marion Barber, better be fucking legit! I actually had pride in the Gopher's football team when we had Barber and Maroney and even Russell.
Speaking from experience, you might want to wait at least one or two seasons (depending on the amount of gutting here in SEAPL) before you bring them up here. We're having a hard enough time in our 10th season. Either way, we'd love to play you guys, assuming we haven't tucked our tails and hit the reset button. I think we might be able to hang on for two more seasons up here. Three if we're feeling froggish.
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Originally posted by Victory Jones
no offense to you, hook, you seem like a swell guy, but thats about the worst plan Ive ever heard of.
never listen to snaza again.
It was his team. We talk about things but in the end, it was his team to do as he saw fit. I retired my guys, because we were mediocre at best and I needed the flex.
I owe it to him, as I'm usually the dumbass when we're out drinking and he usually goes along with my "great ideas at the moment" which quickly turn into
moments when I sober up. No, it's nothing ghey for those of you who love to turn everything into man-on-man action. 
no offense to you, hook, you seem like a swell guy, but thats about the worst plan Ive ever heard of.
never listen to snaza again.
It was his team. We talk about things but in the end, it was his team to do as he saw fit. I retired my guys, because we were mediocre at best and I needed the flex.
I owe it to him, as I'm usually the dumbass when we're out drinking and he usually goes along with my "great ideas at the moment" which quickly turn into
moments when I sober up. No, it's nothing ghey for those of you who love to turn everything into man-on-man action. Victory Jones
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Originally posted by bighookworm
It was his team. We talk about things but in the end, it was his team to do as he saw fit. I retired my guys, because we were mediocre at best and I needed the flex.
I owe it to him, as I'm usually the dumbass when we're out drinking and he usually goes along with my "great ideas at the moment" which quickly turn into moments when I sober up. No, it's nothing ghey for those of you who love to turn everything into man-on-man action.
no biggie.
what you and snaza do when youre drunk is noobody's business...
It was his team. We talk about things but in the end, it was his team to do as he saw fit. I retired my guys, because we were mediocre at best and I needed the flex.
I owe it to him, as I'm usually the dumbass when we're out drinking and he usually goes along with my "great ideas at the moment" which quickly turn into
moments when I sober up. No, it's nothing ghey for those of you who love to turn everything into man-on-man action. no biggie.
what you and snaza do when youre drunk is noobody's business...
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Originally posted by haole
Winona had one season in pro where they did better than us and then immediately gutted
obviously that was the plan, victory!
i think you are forgetting the season we beat you in the playoffs, that makes 2
Winona had one season in pro where they did better than us and then immediately gutted
obviously that was the plan, victory!
i think you are forgetting the season we beat you in the playoffs, that makes 2
Originally posted by bighookworm
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
It was your boy who talked about the Winona decision to gut. And he mocked us for not making the same decision.
I don't criticize Winona for making that decision, but I think it's ridiculous and counter-intuitive for anyone to try and say that we're quitters or losers because we decided to fight through it.
We made a commitment to our agents: they built a bunch of players who wanted to one day be Mountain Men and play in the Pros with a shot at the World League. We want to honor that commitment. If we gut, we give up on that promise without even trying. We're not going to do that to our agents.
If that means we have to suffer through a couple of rough years, that's just the way it has to be. We're not embarrassed about it, and we're not too concerned what other people think about it. We're doing the best we can to do what we said we would do. Did we start our farm team a little too late? Yep, because it left this gap that we weren't prepared for and jmarter picked the absolute worst time to have RL problems to deal with (yeah, I know he didn't actually pick the time to have a RL problems, but dammit we miss his steady hand on the wheel, that's for sure).
Oh well, it is what it is. I got no problems with you worm, and I would actually feel bad about you and your team getting dragged into the middle of this shit if it wasn't your little yap dog who kept doing all the barking.
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
It was your boy who talked about the Winona decision to gut. And he mocked us for not making the same decision.
I don't criticize Winona for making that decision, but I think it's ridiculous and counter-intuitive for anyone to try and say that we're quitters or losers because we decided to fight through it.
We made a commitment to our agents: they built a bunch of players who wanted to one day be Mountain Men and play in the Pros with a shot at the World League. We want to honor that commitment. If we gut, we give up on that promise without even trying. We're not going to do that to our agents.
If that means we have to suffer through a couple of rough years, that's just the way it has to be. We're not embarrassed about it, and we're not too concerned what other people think about it. We're doing the best we can to do what we said we would do. Did we start our farm team a little too late? Yep, because it left this gap that we weren't prepared for and jmarter picked the absolute worst time to have RL problems to deal with (yeah, I know he didn't actually pick the time to have a RL problems, but dammit we miss his steady hand on the wheel, that's for sure).
Oh well, it is what it is. I got no problems with you worm, and I would actually feel bad about you and your team getting dragged into the middle of this shit if it wasn't your little yap dog who kept doing all the barking.
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Originally posted by haole
Originally posted by bighookworm
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
It was your boy who talked about the Winona decision to gut. And he mocked us for not making the same decision.
I don't criticize Winona for making that decision, but I think it's ridiculous and counter-intuitive for anyone to try and say that we're quitters or losers because we decided to fight through it.
We made a commitment to our agents: they built a bunch of players who wanted to one day be Mountain Men and play in the Pros with a shot at the World League. We want to honor that commitment. If we gut, we give up on that promise without even trying. We're not going to do that to our agents.
If that means we have to suffer through a couple of rough years, that's just the way it has to be. We're not embarrassed about it, and we're not too concerned what other people think about it. We're doing the best we can to do what we said we would do. Did we start our farm team a little too late? Yep, because it left this gap that we weren't prepared for and jmarter picked the absolute worst time to have RL problems to deal with (yeah, I know he didn't actually pick the time to have a RL problems, but dammit we miss his steady hand on the wheel, that's for sure).
Oh well, it is what it is. I got no problems with you worm, and I would actually feel bad about you and your team getting dragged into the middle of this shit if it wasn't your little yap dog who kept doing all the barking.
lol shot at W/L, see, I knew you had a sense of humor.
Originally posted by bighookworm
For those that have mentioned Winona and their choice to gut, I would like to point out that we could have hit the reset button a lot earlier than we did. In fact, I had quite a few conversations with Snaza about it and he wanted to keep trying until our players were in full decline, which they were when started over.
It was your boy who talked about the Winona decision to gut. And he mocked us for not making the same decision.
I don't criticize Winona for making that decision, but I think it's ridiculous and counter-intuitive for anyone to try and say that we're quitters or losers because we decided to fight through it.
We made a commitment to our agents: they built a bunch of players who wanted to one day be Mountain Men and play in the Pros with a shot at the World League. We want to honor that commitment. If we gut, we give up on that promise without even trying. We're not going to do that to our agents.
If that means we have to suffer through a couple of rough years, that's just the way it has to be. We're not embarrassed about it, and we're not too concerned what other people think about it. We're doing the best we can to do what we said we would do. Did we start our farm team a little too late? Yep, because it left this gap that we weren't prepared for and jmarter picked the absolute worst time to have RL problems to deal with (yeah, I know he didn't actually pick the time to have a RL problems, but dammit we miss his steady hand on the wheel, that's for sure).
Oh well, it is what it is. I got no problems with you worm, and I would actually feel bad about you and your team getting dragged into the middle of this shit if it wasn't your little yap dog who kept doing all the barking.
lol shot at W/L, see, I knew you had a sense of humor.
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