I was just curious as to how one would build a blitzing cornerback?
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I would focus on lots of speed first. After attributes, I would invest in First Step and Blitz SA's. CB's don't blitz much because they leave a void in coverage, so you'll have to find a DC that is committed to implementing that into his gameplan.
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Originally posted by idm03
I would focus on lots of speed first. After attributes, I would invest in First Step and Blitz SA's. CB's don't blitz much because they leave a void in coverage, so you'll have to find a DC that is committed to implementing that into his gameplan.
Agree. 135+ speed
70+ agility
10 First Step
10 Change Direction
10 Blitz
At least soft capped tackling and strength, I'd try for double
I would focus on lots of speed first. After attributes, I would invest in First Step and Blitz SA's. CB's don't blitz much because they leave a void in coverage, so you'll have to find a DC that is committed to implementing that into his gameplan.
Agree. 135+ speed
70+ agility
10 First Step
10 Change Direction
10 Blitz
At least soft capped tackling and strength, I'd try for double
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Roughneck
I would think.. keep agility (acceleration) even with speed - max them both right out.
1st Step, Blitz, ChangeDir,
...agility is key IMO
Don't do this.
I would think.. keep agility (acceleration) even with speed - max them both right out.
1st Step, Blitz, ChangeDir,
...agility is key IMO
Don't do this.
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Don't do this.
agreed. agility would really only be helpful in shedding blocks... and i can guarantee you that, if you get blocked, even for a fraction of a second, you will not get a sack or hurry. you need to go super heavy on speed, adequate agility, and good FS and CD. strength and tackling wont do much unless you want to try and force a fumble... and i think most of us know how forcing fumbles work. (pretty much completely random) i would go with almost exactly what djinnt said.
Don't do this.
agreed. agility would really only be helpful in shedding blocks... and i can guarantee you that, if you get blocked, even for a fraction of a second, you will not get a sack or hurry. you need to go super heavy on speed, adequate agility, and good FS and CD. strength and tackling wont do much unless you want to try and force a fumble... and i think most of us know how forcing fumbles work. (pretty much completely random) i would go with almost exactly what djinnt said.
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Originally posted by Worker 3
agreed. agility would really only be helpful in shedding blocks... and i can guarantee you that, if you get blocked, even for a fraction of a second, you will not get a sack or hurry. you need to go super heavy on speed, adequate agility, and good FS and CD. strength and tackling wont do much unless you want to try and force a fumble... and i think most of us know how forcing fumbles work. (pretty much completely random) i would go with almost exactly what djinnt said.
Yeah but I'd raise str/tackle with all extra points simply because not all plays are passing plays, you may as well contribute something to the running game in the form of TFL on rushers
agreed. agility would really only be helpful in shedding blocks... and i can guarantee you that, if you get blocked, even for a fraction of a second, you will not get a sack or hurry. you need to go super heavy on speed, adequate agility, and good FS and CD. strength and tackling wont do much unless you want to try and force a fumble... and i think most of us know how forcing fumbles work. (pretty much completely random) i would go with almost exactly what djinnt said.
Yeah but I'd raise str/tackle with all extra points simply because not all plays are passing plays, you may as well contribute something to the running game in the form of TFL on rushers
I just ran this through the VPB. This is assuming he gets two pieces of blitz AEQ and one piece of FS. Run him in a zone scheme and I don't think he'd be too much of a weak link in the passing game.
Blitzing CB (lvl. 66)
Ht/Wt: 5'11", 180lbs
360 days old
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 51.83
Speed: 127.18 (+39)
Agility: 75.18
Jumping: 57.18
Stamina: 49.18
Vision: 73.18
Confidence: 48.83
Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 24.18
Tackling: 27.83
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 20.83
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 8
Sticky Hands: 5
Superior Vision: 8
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0
Speedster Abilities
First Step: 16
Change Direction: 9
Return Specialist: 1
Blitz: 10
Closing Speed: 1
Veteran Abilities:
Zone Specialist: 15
Track Star: 15
Third Down Stopper: 15 (possibly special teamer or clutch)
Blitzing CB (lvl. 72)
Ht/Wt: 5'11", 180lbs
400 days old
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 52.49
Speed: 132.02 (+43)
Agility: 76.02
Jumping: 61.02
Stamina: 50.02
Vision: 74.02
Confidence: 49.49
Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 25.02
Tackling: 38.49
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 21.49
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 10
Sticky Hands: 5
Superior Vision: 10
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0
Speedster Abilities
First Step: 16
Change Direction: 10
Return Specialist: 1
Blitz: 11
Closing Speed: 1
Veteran Abilities:
Zone Specialist: 15
Track Star: 15
Third Down Stopper: 15 (possibly special teamer or clutch)
Other VA: 11
Blitzing CB (lvl. 66)
Ht/Wt: 5'11", 180lbs
360 days old
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 51.83
Speed: 127.18 (+39)
Agility: 75.18
Jumping: 57.18
Stamina: 49.18
Vision: 73.18
Confidence: 48.83
Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 24.18
Tackling: 27.83
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 20.83
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 8
Sticky Hands: 5
Superior Vision: 8
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0
Speedster Abilities
First Step: 16
Change Direction: 9
Return Specialist: 1
Blitz: 10
Closing Speed: 1
Veteran Abilities:
Zone Specialist: 15
Track Star: 15
Third Down Stopper: 15 (possibly special teamer or clutch)
Blitzing CB (lvl. 72)
Ht/Wt: 5'11", 180lbs
400 days old
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 52.49
Speed: 132.02 (+43)
Agility: 76.02
Jumping: 61.02
Stamina: 50.02
Vision: 74.02
Confidence: 49.49
Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 25.02
Tackling: 38.49
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 21.49
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 10
Sticky Hands: 5
Superior Vision: 10
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0
Speedster Abilities
First Step: 16
Change Direction: 10
Return Specialist: 1
Blitz: 11
Closing Speed: 1
Veteran Abilities:
Zone Specialist: 15
Track Star: 15
Third Down Stopper: 15 (possibly special teamer or clutch)
Other VA: 11
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Originally posted by kid clutch
I was just curious as to how one would build a blitzing cornerback?
Lots of Speed/Agility and lots of First Step and Blitz AE
What I mean by lots is get Speed to 115+ and Agility to 95+ while First Step to at least 10 and same with Blitz AE.
Speed has to be really close to Agility for your CB to hit top speed really quick!
I was just curious as to how one would build a blitzing cornerback?
Lots of Speed/Agility and lots of First Step and Blitz AE
What I mean by lots is get Speed to 115+ and Agility to 95+ while First Step to at least 10 and same with Blitz AE.
Speed has to be really close to Agility for your CB to hit top speed really quick!
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i'd go with the super high speed with first step, but i would defintiely consider using a FS instead of CB
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
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Originally posted by monsterkill
i'd go with the super high speed with first step, but i would defintiely consider using a FS instead of CB
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
ive thought of this as well, and while it hasnt been nailed down as to how much the Blitz SA actually helps, i think it would probably worthwhile to get 2 pieces of that.
i'd go with the super high speed with first step, but i would defintiely consider using a FS instead of CB
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
ive thought of this as well, and while it hasnt been nailed down as to how much the Blitz SA actually helps, i think it would probably worthwhile to get 2 pieces of that.
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Yeah but I'd raise str/tackle with all extra points simply because not all plays are passing plays, you may as well contribute something to the running game in the form of TFL on rushers
of course, but just like any good CB build, that can wait for a while until you have other attributes to where you want them.
Yeah but I'd raise str/tackle with all extra points simply because not all plays are passing plays, you may as well contribute something to the running game in the form of TFL on rushers
of course, but just like any good CB build, that can wait for a while until you have other attributes to where you want them.
Originally posted by monsterkill
i'd go with the super high speed with first step, but i would defintiely consider using a FS instead of CB
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
There are a couple of problems with that route, though. First, the CB likely won't be blitzing on every play. More likely it will be a 5-6 times per game deal (maybe more if he's really good) and the rest of the plays he will be playing coverage at CB3. Because of that, he needs to be able to cover in order to not be as much of a liability. That's why I went with a hybrid blitzing/zone CB. With the boost from zone spec, he'll be running 86 agility on plays where he is covering the pass rather than blitzing. That combined with the speed should be enough to not be a liability in the passing game.
Second, adding more tackling and strength would be nice if the difference really mattered. You're going to likely be a low weight CB (more speed). That going up against a power back with SYM and Bruiser will likely be on the losing end regardless of whether he has 60 strength and 48 tackling or 68 strength and 68 tackling.
Third, try to depend on knocked loose passes instead of coverage and pass deflections doesn't work well for a CB, especially a CB who will likely be min weight. KLs rely heavily on weight and tackling style. Since he will in all likelihood be playing on wrap-up, he probably won't have a very good chance at KLs.
i'd go with the super high speed with first step, but i would defintiely consider using a FS instead of CB
you get
better speed/str/tackling ALGs
more freedom for placement in custom d plays
and the fearsome VA is an option
just thinking out loud, i'd also consider taking strength/tackling to 68 since if you're blitzing and they run to your side, you're probably going to be dealing with SYM. since SP doesnt grow on trees, that str/tackling would come at the expense of some jumping/vision/deflection SAs. so if you're not going to be blitzing almost every play, then you'll probably need to rely on knocking loose passes instead of regular deflections. by level 60 you could have natural 90/70/71/68/61 in speed/agility/tackling/strength/vision
There are a couple of problems with that route, though. First, the CB likely won't be blitzing on every play. More likely it will be a 5-6 times per game deal (maybe more if he's really good) and the rest of the plays he will be playing coverage at CB3. Because of that, he needs to be able to cover in order to not be as much of a liability. That's why I went with a hybrid blitzing/zone CB. With the boost from zone spec, he'll be running 86 agility on plays where he is covering the pass rather than blitzing. That combined with the speed should be enough to not be a liability in the passing game.
Second, adding more tackling and strength would be nice if the difference really mattered. You're going to likely be a low weight CB (more speed). That going up against a power back with SYM and Bruiser will likely be on the losing end regardless of whether he has 60 strength and 48 tackling or 68 strength and 68 tackling.
Third, try to depend on knocked loose passes instead of coverage and pass deflections doesn't work well for a CB, especially a CB who will likely be min weight. KLs rely heavily on weight and tackling style. Since he will in all likelihood be playing on wrap-up, he probably won't have a very good chance at KLs.
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