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They are trying to tell me that this was streaks out of the Weak I formation. I never have that play called with my TE in Weak side pass protection in any of my packages or AI.

WTF? Anyone else see this happen?

Originally posted by Time Trial
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They are trying to tell me that this was streaks out of the Weak I formation. I never have that play called with my TE in Weak side pass protection in any of my packages or AI.

WTF? Anyone else see this happen?

Almost looked like the HB was setting up for a weakside screen.

looks like WI Streaks with TE blocking left side and HB and FB pass blocking

Originally posted by LordEvil
looks like WI Streaks with TE blocking left side and HB and FB pass blocking

HB and FB are always pass blocking on streaks... would be nice to be able to add in a HB or FB flat on this play.

I hate doing a max protect for three reasons:

1) Defensive players are omnicient. They wait like one tick to see if their priority is blocking or running and then they go cover their next available target that is running a route, blitz, or zone.

2) If the defender has broken through your oline, they will carry on and break through your blocking back.

3) Because of reason number one, the two WRs have like three defender on them each and a very good chance of being hurried.

So this isn't a mistake in my AI because I don't have a single play called where I run a max protect pass... it is just the sim being a bitch again.

That is WI Streaks with the following settings:

TE Pass Block Left
HB Play default (if you look at the play there is no route for the HB or the FB)
FB Play default

If that isn't in your AI anywhere it is a bug.

Alternatively check your basic offensive settings (we all know plays get called we don't put in, when they do they go off of the basic settings), do you have any % in TE pass block left [I bet you do!!! ].

Originally posted by Thunder66
Alternatively check your basic offensive settings (we all know plays get called we don't put in, when they do they go off of the basic settings), do you have any % in TE pass block left [I bet you do!!! ].

I'll check.

Yeah, 25%. But every eventuality has been covered in the advanced AI. There is even a catch-all at the very end so that if a play cannot be called for some reason, that it runs this specific play.

Originally posted by Time Trial
I'll check.

Yeah, 25%. But every eventuality has been covered in the advanced AI. There is even a catch-all at the very end so that if a play cannot be called for some reason, that it runs this specific play.

You can't stop it from happening (and people notice it more in playoffs as they watch every play and limit certain plays) for some reason regardless of if your AI is perfect or not random plays will still get called [see the bugs forum on any given day]. Not to say that a lot of the time people mess up the AI, but even if you don't it still happens.

Originally posted by Thunder66
Originally posted by Time Trial

I'll check.

Yeah, 25%. But every eventuality has been covered in the advanced AI. There is even a catch-all at the very end so that if a play cannot be called for some reason, that it runs this specific play.

You can't stop it from happening (and people notice it more in playoffs as they watch every play and limit certain plays) for some reason regardless of if your AI is perfect or not random plays will still get called [see the bugs forum on any given day]. Not to say that a lot of the time people mess up the AI, but even if you don't it still happens.



I never used to believe in the AI bugs, I was always sure someone had to mess something up somewhere. I'm sure if I go deeper, there must be a play that calls for TE blocking on the left side on a pass, long WR pass, WR pass, or on a random play call.

Maybe it is in a 0% probability to call output, maybe it is in a package that should never be called... but somewhere, somehow, this must be my fault.

I get one or 2 random calls a game. Happens on both the offense or the defense. I have every aspect covered but yet every once in a while it will do its own thing for a play. I think it has something to do with energy. Your calling a play where the player(s) for that play are just too tired and so it selects another option.

I had a play today where I had only 1 play for the given situation vs 5wr. For some reason, 2 of the guys who were supposed to cover WR's blitzed. I can't for the life of me figure out why. I double checked the AI & the DPC...and it's weird b/c I've had that same setting fire correctly for many games this season.

Originally posted by PING72
I had a play today where I had only 1 play for the given situation vs 5wr. For some reason, 2 of the guys who were supposed to cover WR's blitzed. I can't for the life of me figure out why. I double checked the AI & the DPC...and it's weird b/c I've had that same setting fire correctly for many games this season.

Any chance those players pass rush tactic is set to aggressive?
I've had SS blitz that were supposed to go flat zone and I stopped it by adjusting the pass rush to passive.

Originally posted by Time Trial
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=984033&pbp_id=17027270

They are trying to tell me that this was streaks out of the Weak I formation. I never have that play called with my TE in Weak side pass protection in any of my packages or AI.

WTF? Anyone else see this happen?

Working as intended

The LT, TE, HB and FB all read the CB blitz and stayed in to block it.




May I also add, "Needs Moar Vision"

Originally posted by chitchc2
Any chance those players pass rush tactic is set to aggressive?
I've had SS blitz that were supposed to go flat zone and I stopped it by adjusting the pass rush to passive.

At least one was mine, and I know the answer to that one is no.

with all those guys out in front, the hb would of had a hell of a hole to run thru if you ran a weak side run play...........lol