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Originally posted by Sonic
Wow. Vision first guys. You train it with agility. Once vision is capped, you take agility and speed to 74(or the cap-about). Training? Vision/agility, agility/speed, speed/tackling, tackling/strength, confidence/stamina.

you mean like this?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1330593

Sitting on 17 sp's atm waiting to finish training strength/tackling so I can 2cap tackling.

Originally posted by PatricktheDookie
There is definitely some serious lol in this thread.

Listen to whatever this guy says. Although, he hasn't said anything yet...

Originally posted by Homage
you mean like this?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1330593

Sitting on 17 sp's atm waiting to finish training strength/tackling so I can 2cap tackling.

I'd probably take speed to at least 68 if not 74 before going the route with tackling. I'm guessing that's what you've done via build wise though. Looks good so far.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
So you put your best level gains onto your 3rd or 4rth most important attribute?

They are? Tell me more. I'm in awe of your advise.

Originally posted by Sonic
They are? Tell me more. I'm in awe of your advise.

Do you see the "?" at the end of my post?

Tell me why vision is the most important skill for a blitzing ROLB, or tell me why it's not a bad Idea to start your build with the 3rd or 4rth most important attribute.

I prefer to 4th cap agility as fast as possible.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Do you see the "?" at the end of my post?

Tell me why vision is the most important skill for a blitzing ROLB, or tell me why it's not a bad Idea to start your build with the 3rd or 4rth most important attribute.

I've found that the build plan is much better to start with vision first, cap it, and then move on to agility. If you follow the intensive training system that links the important skills, then a route follows. If you start with either agility or speed, and then move on to vision, then your stuck, as you can't. Primarily you'll pick agility first right, while training it with speed. Once agility is started, speed would then be the logical next one. The problem lies in that all you have is tackling or stamina. And then tackling/strength. The link breaks down there.

Now, if you start your build with vision/agility, it doesn't matter. Once you've hit the strength point, you can move to confidence/stamina.

Incidentally, I never said it was the most important skill, I said it was the best way to build any LB. Well at least one that will be agility/speed based. It's a different story if you want a strength based LB. I think this is a good way to build a ROLB/LOLB myself.

I'm all ears to your methods.

Originally posted by Stonewall Paul
I prefer to 4th cap agility as fast as possible.

How long does it take you to 4th cap your LB's agility? And after the first season, what cap will he be at too?

Originally posted by Sonic
I've found that the build plan is much better to start with vision first, cap it, and then move on to agility. If you follow the intensive training system that links the important skills, then a route follows. If you start with either agility or speed, and then move on to vision, then your stuck, as you can't. Primarily you'll pick agility first right, while training it with speed. Once agility is started, speed would then be the logical next one. The problem lies in that all you have is tackling or stamina. And then tackling/strength. The link breaks down there.

Now, if you start your build with vision/agility, it doesn't matter. Once you've hit the strength point, you can move to confidence/stamina.

Incidentally, I never said it was the most important skill, I said it was the best way to build any LB. Well at least one that will be agility/speed based. It's a different story if you want a strength based LB. I think this is a good way to build a ROLB/LOLB myself.

I'm all ears to your methods.

I can see the benefits of that, I'm certainly running into head scratchers training wise when I sim my agility>speed LB build.

My oldest LB I went speed-agi-vis, and by the time I 68 capped vision, strength and tackling were both in their 30s and I'm working on Jumping while I wait for levels. Of course on my newest OLB I'll be doing more between cap training, which will make training pairs a little more critical, I just like agility too much to pass on all those level gains, I only have to 68 cap it for it to be 77+ in his 40s.

The way I look at it is with the linebackers measly .33 and .25 gains, they really don't matter that much after level 30 or so. Considering I can really only max out 2 stats by level 30, I'm going to get my top two done first. So even though speed gets a slightly smaller LG, I still like to cap it first or second for a ROLB because lower level gains or not, I don't want to pay more than 5 SP for a point on an LB, there's too many attributes and too few SPs.

For a coverage LOLB, I would give a lot of thought to going vision first now though.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
I can see the benefits of that, I'm certainly running into head scratchers training wise when I sim my agility>speed LB build.

My oldest LB I went speed-agi-vis, and by the time I 68 capped vision, strength and tackling were both in their 30s and I'm working on Jumping while I wait for levels. Of course on my newest OLB I'll be doing more between cap training, which will make training pairs a little more critical, I just like agility too much to pass on all those level gains, I only have to 68 cap it for it to be 77+ in his 40s.

The way I look at it is with the linebackers measly .33 and .25 gains, they really don't matter that much after level 30 or so. Considering I can really only max out 2 stats by level 30, I'm going to get my top two done first. So even though speed gets a slightly smaller LG, I still like to cap it first or second for a ROLB because lower level gains or not, I don't want to pay more than 5 SP for a point on an LB, there's too many attributes and too few SPs.

For a coverage LOLB, I would give a lot of thought to going vision first now though.

My biggest concern with the LB build is how little confidence there will be by this stage. Though by the end of the first season, I'll have capped vision and double capped agility. I'm pretty happy with this so far.

What you have to keep in mind is how low the auto-gains really are for LB. Essentially you want speed/agility to be extremely high and the other attributes are not nearly as important for you to have to cap them early on (when you can get some of those points back from training later anyway). I can't remember exactly how I did it, but I'm pretty sure I at least 3rd capped agility first while training agility/speed the whole time. I think I even 4th capped it before capping speed. Then I 3rd capped speed while training jumping/vision. Then you can 3rd cap vision and 4th cap speed. You'll have to have shitty strength tackling for a while after that. I took strength to 3rd cap while tackling was only capped and it worked fine and helps you get pancaked less while blitzing.

Anyway if you train to 99% on the agility before each cap you can be at like 78 natural agility by level 50 with all the auto gains in there. Also keep in mind that pass rusher VA gives you a bonus to agility so you want that to be the highest natural number it can be and just put most of your equipment in speed to get it up to around 105-115+ wherever you want to go later in your career.

Originally posted by Sonic
My biggest concern with the LB build is how little confidence there will be by this stage. Though by the end of the first season, I'll have capped vision and double capped agility. I'm pretty happy with this so far.

Ok, so you're not maxing each stat one at time, you're only single capping vision before moving on to agility, not going all the way to 68 with it. Am I right?

I'm a one stat at a time guy so the first stat I go with I'm pretty much married to as far as my primary stat is concerned. I think a lot of people like to compare the two styles as if one is far superior to the other SP wise, but I think it's really a preference thing. I just like to be DONE with an attribute before I quit it.

It will take me a while to get to confidence, which will push his peak performance later into his career, but I'm hoping it's a little higher peak. My older LBs con is still 10 points behind his level and I haven't added strength yet so pancakes are an Issue.

Train speed first, then agility!

No wait, train agility first, then speed!

No wait, train vision first, then agility!

No wait...


You can argue back and forth about these things, but the reality is that they make very little difference in the grand scheme. The stat difference between going speed then agility versus going agility then speed is rather minimal at the maximum level. What really matters are two (maybe three) things:

1) Your equipment (and how the points are allocated)
2) How your coordinator uses your linebacker
3) (my personal opinion) The height/weight of your character

I don't have a cookie cutter build, and I'm going to continue experimenting and having fun. What I can tell you, though, is that Denver had one of the most inefficient builds of any character in this game. Luckily, a character does not require the perfect slow build to succeed in GLB.

Originally posted by PatricktheDookie
Train speed first, then agility!

No wait, train agility first, then speed!

No wait, train vision first, then agility!

No wait...


You can argue back and forth about these things, but the reality is that they make very little difference in the grand scheme. The stat difference between going speed then agility versus going agility then speed is rather minimal at the maximum level. What really matters are two (maybe three) things:

1) Your equipment (and how the points are allocated)
2) How your coordinator uses your linebacker
3) (my personal opinion) The height/weight of your character

I don't have a cookie cutter build, and I'm going to continue experimenting and having fun. What I can tell you, though, is that Denver had one of the most inefficient builds of any character in this game. Luckily, a character does not require the perfect slow build to succeed in GLB.

Ehh denver's a bit on the light side eh? So your DC gameplans to have you not coming in contact with linemen?

do speed first high 60's then agi/str/tack

major point if you can't catch the ball carrier then what's the point in playing you'll be useless

rolb's are for the most part blitz lb's (i.e. lawrence taylor was a rolb irl) if your speed and agi aren't high then you can't catch the ball carrier's like rb's qb's or wr's then you'll ride the bench and might as well retire

mlb stick in the middle and don't need as much speed or agi but more str and tack to stuff power backs or any other ball carrier and to keep from getting caked by linemen