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LordEvil
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I was using Defensive packages and I keep getting the sim to revert to basic DF on about 4 occasions a game. Also it selected a play out of the single back formation that is only used on Weak I formation. The Single back defense isn't even using packages but using individual plays. Just wondering if its only me or are others also getting random things going on, that are not in the AI. Its not a missed setting either, I tested the DF test and it shows what I have yet it resorts to basic from time to time. Example is this play
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863203&pbp_id=7338226
I have SI listed first (Package set of a few plays) downs is 1-3 and distance is 0-100, scores left empty. WRs set to 0-2 No where do I have such a basic play in my plays.

Here is another- I have 2 plays for single back last game and neither is this one
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863203&pbp_id=7341235
SB DF, Scores empty, downs 1-4 distance 0-100, WRs 0-3

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863203&pbp_id=7343627
Again, no where do I have this basic play, I formation has 5 plays listed
scores empty, downs 1-3, distance 0-100, Wrs 0-2

There are a few more that I didnt write down but this isnt the first game I noticed this on. Its basically a basic DF the computer runs and its cover 2. It happens on I and Strong I mostly. I think the problem is packages.
 
jxgator33
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just curious but what is the point of defensive packages?
 
Kaerey
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I had this same problem in a game, yes.

could you provide another piece of info, do you have your play percentages in the packages set to like 33% or are they all left at 100%?

I'm thinking that if you have 3 plays all set to 33% then there might be a 1% chance for it to default to the basic defenses to make the sum 100%. Not sure though, as I haven't tested it too much.
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by jxgator33
just curious but what is the point of defensive packages?


I am using them to so I can put in 2-3 plays per situation so I can see which ones work the best that I could use in the future. I'm also a new owner so I don't have as much data as some other more experienced owners.
 
LordEvil
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Because when you use the same play for all 3 I's its easier. I have since took them out and just put plays in there. I have plays for SI and WI that are different and its just easier to change plays in and out using the package thing. If I find a play I dont like or needs edited I just change the package instead of having to do all 3 formations or 6 if 4th down is involved.
 
LordEvil
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Originally posted by Kaerey
I had this same problem in a game, yes.

could you provide another piece of info, do you have your play percentages in the packages set to like 33% or are they all left at 100%?

I'm thinking that if you have 3 plays all set to 33% then there might be a 1% chance for it to default to the basic defenses to make the sum 100%. Not sure though, as I haven't tested it too much.


They all equal 100%. I put 3 plays in have one at 34, 33 and 33. If I have 4 plays in they are 25% each.
 
Jagerween
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I had a few problems in my early games with 2 wide formations. I ended up having a play that was a QB sweep and normally i have 2 players on the left side, but for some reason my FS was in the middle of the field 12 yds off the line of scrimmage and i have nothing like that in any play I have created. Ended up resulting in a TD but hasn't happened since.
 
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I can maybe give my 2 cents on the last play given LE. Today i put in new plays for our GLB headhunter game for I form and a few string I plays. I set them above the other I form(strong/weak) and didnt have them set @ any I and under the strng/wk form calls, My Al called the exact same basic D calls,not the ones I had put in for the I formations and selected strong I plays.It may just be a setting thing, i am somewhat new and cant compare to what you do but can it just be an overlooked thing as above mentioned?
 
LordEvil
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It happens in all 3 I variations. I make sure to put any I under SI and WI. I think it has something to do with fetching the plays from the packages. I took them all out and not one bad play in the scrimmage. Even the DF AI tester shows the correct plays for the situation but it still went to basic. I guess the best thing is to just not use packages and warn teams to be ware that you may get random play calling from time to time.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
It happens in all 3 I variations. I make sure to put any I under SI and WI. I think it has something to do with fetching the plays from the packages. I took them all out and not one bad play in the scrimmage. Even the DF AI tester shows the correct plays for the situation but it still went to basic. I guess the best thing is to just not use packages and warn teams to be ware that you may get random play calling from time to time.


Damn then thats sucks,thanks for the heads up. This D package is new and is subject IMO to having it screw up, until someone like yourself shows that it is screwed no one really knows. Thanks for the heads up LE.
 
D~Town
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Try checking in the custom defense under Quarter Tab on the opposite end of the All Tab on your custom play settings.
I have had some plays come up that I do not have listed in a particular DAI. I found the plays over there. I honestly do not how they got there in mine or why they were even being called without being requested.

FYI you might find some left over stuff in there or even things you did not create. That is were I was finding random plays being called and pulled from.
 
Robbnva
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not using defense packages
 
Time Trial
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From changelog:

-Fix to D package editor not saving LILB/RILB option properly

Updated yesterday.
 
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I use a package for single back and I have had it throw out random basic formations on occasion.
 


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