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Kayoh
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tbqh I said "low strength" because it's, like, embarrassingly low.

1st QB has 38.xx STR. x_x

2nd QB has 50+ (but at level 19, combined with almost 100 Throwing, that's pretty damn high tbh)

I said the 3rd QB has ~80 STR
 
Sain621
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Lol, ok I see your point. 38 strength will have no zip on your spiral. I'm not surprised you're getting so many PDs.

But from the other side of the spectrum, if you had 38 vision, not only would you get PDs, but tons of Interceptions.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Sain621
Lol, ok I see your point. 38 strength will have no zip on your spiral. I'm not surprised you're getting so many PDs.

But from the other side of the spectrum, if you had 38 vision, not only would you get PDs, but tons of Interceptions.

The 2nd QB has 26 Vision. 0 INTs.
 
Ilok
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The real order is:
#1 Throwing
#2a Vision
#2b Strength

Strength is not better than vision and vision is not better than strength. They compliment each other. 70 strength is the minimum you should have as a QB, but when you are facing teams with nothing but 65+ DBs who have 90 agility and close to 100 speed with 10 SDC and 15 Ballhawk, you want as much zip to the ball as possible.

Bullet is not the answer to a slow moving ball. Yes bullet passes are faster, because they are straighter and the fastest distance between two points is a straight line.
 
kingofgod
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lol been saying this since season four.
 
Sain621
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Originally posted by Kayoh

The 2nd QB has 26 Vision. 0 INTs.


You have to remember that you're comparing it to a Lv19 player. There's guys that are slow building and only have 1 attribute above 60, or are focusing on 1 or 2 attributes and neglect other attributes, or are incompetent builders. You're oldest player was created at the end of Season 5 and is a Lv40, so you don't know the difference between both end of the spectrum. When the Defenders get to flying around, you're going to need vision to throw away from Defenders. I can guarantee you in any Pro League, especially USA Pro with players touching Lv70, where all the Defensive players have already capped vision, speed, agility, jumping, and most important stats several times, a low vision QB will get destroyed as oppose to a low strength QB.

Like someone said, they complement each other. One without the other is useless. But in theory, if you can hit your WRs in stride and away from Defenders, you don't need as much zip. However, you can have all the strength in the world, it won't be useful if you can't see the WR running his route. Vision helps diagnose the play, and will cut down PDs. I watched a half of the PBP from your QB and he's throwing into double and triple coverage. What's strength going to do in that instance? You need vision to see not to throw into that situation. Or at least vision to throw thread the needle, as Bort says. Strength can get it into that tight spot quicker with the Defense not reacting as quick, but it won't mean shit if you don't throw that bullet to where only your WR can get to it.

My advice: Lower bullet pass to 40%, maybe route run to 20%, get vision to 90, then get strength to 70+, wherever you feel comfortable.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Sain621
You're oldest player was created at the end of Season 5 and is a Lv40, so you don't know the difference between both end of the spectrum.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=148920

wut
 
Sain621
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Ah, my fault. Point still stands.
Edited by Sain621 on Sep 16, 2009 15:33:07
 
Corny
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Very Interesting! I side with the fellow who believes that vision is the second best attribute, but, as they say, and it is very true, one can make stats say anything they want them to, so there isn't any truly undeniable way to PROVE any of us correct, now is there?
Take care.
 
jselin
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corny...ur build is showing. and it's scaring the children.
 
Ditka
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1236946&playoffs=0

30 More vision than strength

I'm not buying the strength thing right now but my QB is still young.
 
Kenshinzen
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Originally posted by Ditka

I'm not buying the strength thing right now but my QB is still young.


not only that, is a SSB.

 
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