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DiegoKokomo
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Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren
Scroll back to the very first page and find out that that is what we've been telling you all the time. Zeta's top teams look a bit stronger than Alpha's, and their bad teams look a lot worse.
I don't think one of the 2 conferences is the stronger, but voicing an opinion based upon games in week 16 (when virtually everything in the Zeta conference was allready decided) and scrimmage games is just plain studpidity.

Yes, basing the Alpha vs. Zeta discussion off of the only Alpha vs. Zeta games is just plain "studpidity." I'm sure every Alpha team had something to play for while Zeta all secretly agreed to not try very hard and let Alpha win because nobody could or would actually use those games as a basis for which conference is and was better during season 2. Obviously it was pointless to play the championship game because you guys knew you were better the whole time and on-field comparisons cannot be used in discussions such as this (and yes, this is sarcasm).
 
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Originally posted by DiegoKokomo
Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren

Scroll back to the very first page and find out that that is what we've been telling you all the time. Zeta's top teams look a bit stronger than Alpha's, and their bad teams look a lot worse.
I don't think one of the 2 conferences is the stronger, but voicing an opinion based upon games in week 16 (when virtually everything in the Zeta conference was allready decided) and scrimmage games is just plain studpidity.

Yes, basing the Alpha vs. Zeta discussion off of the only Alpha vs. Zeta games is just plain "studpidity." I'm sure every Alpha team had something to play for while Zeta all secretly agreed to not try very hard and let Alpha win because nobody could or would actually use those games as a basis for which conference is and was better during season 2. Obviously it was pointless to play the championship game because you guys knew you were better the whole time and on-field comparisons cannot be used in discussions such as this (and yes, this is sarcasm).


Can someone please make it clear to this guy he's making a fool out of himself?
 
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Once again, I don't think Zeta nor Alpha is stronger, and playing in the Zeta I know that several of the teams decided to rest their starters in week 16. I guess a lot off teams in the Alpha did the same thing but I don't know for certain. So if you want to have this discussion that's fine by me, but don't bring in those games because it's not relevant.
Notice how everyone has tried to make that clear to you and no one has your back on this. And pointing out typing-errors is just lame, if that's how you plan on winning this discussion I wish you the best of luck...
 
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Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren
Once again, I don't think Zeta nor Alpha is stronger, and playing in the Zeta I know that several of the teams decided to rest their starters in week 16. I guess a lot off teams in the Alpha did the same thing but I don't know for certain. So if you want to have this discussion that's fine by me, but don't bring in those games because it's not relevant.
Notice how everyone has tried to make that clear to you and no one has your back on this. And pointing out typing-errors is just lame, if that's how you plan on winning this discussion I wish you the best of luck...


Several teams rested their starters, like the Houston Roughnecks?
Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren
The Roughnecks hardly played their starters as they allready had homefield advantage secured...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=275026&page=3
You never seemed to show back up there after I proved that wasn't true. You must have missed it I'm sure, so feel free to show me which starters "hardly played" now.

And actually numerous people have agreed that the Week 16 games have merit, including Zeta people. You are one of the few, if not the only one, trying to discredit them. I'm one of the few on the scrimmage bandwagon, but even there I'm not alone. I'm too lazy to go back too far, so just from the last page:
"If you're going to talk about matchups between Alpha and Zeta, you should leave it to Week 16, and the Championship Game." - jprietman, zeta conference
"Week 16 shows that Alpha is stronger, there was still something at stake and Alpha got the better of the exchanges. So what, Zeta won 1 one-off game? - big deal!" - Iwan, Alpha
But yes, everyone has tried to make it clear to me that week 16 is also meaningless.
 
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It seems like week 16 was only valid for the Monarchs / Aggies game for the Zeta guys, even though the Monarchs had HFA secured. When someone from the Monarchs pointed this out, aswell as the fact that the Monarchs played with some wierd tactics, as lots of the Zeta teams did (i.e. Roughnecks) someone jumped down his throat. Double standards methinks.
 
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Originally posted by DiegoKokomo
Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren

Once again, I don't think Zeta nor Alpha is stronger, and playing in the Zeta I know that several of the teams decided to rest their starters in week 16. I guess a lot off teams in the Alpha did the same thing but I don't know for certain. So if you want to have this discussion that's fine by me, but don't bring in those games because it's not relevant.
Notice how everyone has tried to make that clear to you and no one has your back on this. And pointing out typing-errors is just lame, if that's how you plan on winning this discussion I wish you the best of luck...


Several teams rested their starters, like the Houston Roughnecks?
Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren

The Roughnecks hardly played their starters as they allready had homefield advantage secured...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=275026&page=3
You never seemed to show back up there after I proved that wasn't true. You must have missed it I'm sure, so feel free to show me which starters "hardly played" now.

And actually numerous people have agreed that the Week 16 games have merit, including Zeta people. You are one of the few, if not the only one, trying to discredit them. I'm one of the few on the scrimmage bandwagon, but even there I'm not alone. I'm too lazy to go back too far, so just from the last page:
"If you're going to talk about matchups between Alpha and Zeta, you should leave it to Week 16, and the Championship Game." - jprietman, zeta conference
"Week 16 shows that Alpha is stronger, there was still something at stake and Alpha got the better of the exchanges. So what, Zeta won 1 one-off game? - big deal!" - Iwan, Alpha
But yes, everyone has tried to make it clear to me that week 16 is also meaningless.


Why are you still bringing this up...who cares. Stampede won last season, so last season is over. Move on. U can watch week 16 game all you want. I told you we played on normal. Wasnt about starters not playing cause they did. We had no depth whatsoever last season. So the starters did play but it was on normal..atleast all my players were anyways. But really who cares, season 3 is about to start so look ahead and stop your bitching.
 
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Well before argueing which is which, first of all, what are we trying to find.

The Stronger Conference, The Most Competitive Conference, The 'Better' Conference.
Well it seems that most of these are SUBJECTIVE.

However, with the most competitive conference, the only way to find this out is in week 16. Unfortunately, Aplha won a majority of their matches, so I am happy to say that Alpha is more competitive. Games during the season ARE competitive, teams are still left to play for something and anyone saying otherwise, I would hate to be on your team. During the season, I think it is safe to assume that everyone tries their hardest (Unless the team is trying to manipulate the playoff draw or get some experience, they are still trying to achieve something).

There is no way to define what conference is better, as everyone will always have different definitions for better. This is the same for the stronger conference. However, when the best of the best each conference had to offer versed eachother this season, Zeta did come on top. Does this make them better and stronger? Well it is the easiest way to decide if this was the case, as the best of the best play in AFC verse NFC in the NFL and the Superbowl.

What more is left to argue, whether scrimmiage games are revelvant or not? All they are proving is, umm, nothing. So please, can we just stop this pointless bickering about what counts and what doesn't.

Alpha = More Competitive
Zeta = The Strongest Team

Those two things are the only things that is defineable. Stats can prove other things, but odds are I won't be paying attention to those stats .
 
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Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren
Once again, I don't think Zeta nor Alpha is stronger, and playing in the Zeta I know that several of the teams decided to rest their starters in week 16. I guess a lot off teams in the Alpha did the same thing but I don't know for certain. So if you want to have this discussion that's fine by me, but don't bring in those games because it's not relevant.
Notice how everyone has tried to make that clear to you and no one has your back on this. And pointing out typing-errors is just lame, if that's how you plan on winning this discussion I wish you the best of luck...


haha, rest starters? where they tired??? or did they just want to avoid injuries. haha stupidest thing i've heard on glb to date!! I take that back, the person who wanted to have weapons put the game has the stupid title.
 
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i agree it's a moot point now, I don't think zeta will come into week 16 with the same swagger as before. If they do, then alpha can once again claim best confernce.
 
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I couldn't care less this discussion is pointless: WEPL rules, not alpha or zeta
 
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Lads its not even close. Alpha is better.
 
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Originally posted by Gianni Verschueren
I couldn't care less this discussion is pointless: WEPL rules, not alpha or zeta


WEPL is the best... I am leaving the alpha>zeta talk for season 3 week 16.
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i think larkis put it best.
 
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Alright, alright, ok. Let's just call a "do-over" on the interconference games there, since not everyone was trying in season 2. THIS year we can say they count, and if anyone puts their DE at RB, well, then they can't complain.

For the time being we can designate Alpha the "provisional better conference".





That said....football is a team sport, not a conference sport. I don't really give two shits how good a conference is, so long as the TEAM I'm on is successfull.
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