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JeffSteele
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
You're better off with Football genius. If your vision is 69.24 and FG is at 15 you get +5.19 all the time.
When you add more vision it gets even better. I am about to bring his vision up to 74 with 15 football genius and the 48 upgrades he will have over 80 vision....he will still have a ridiculous amount of speed and agility still
So you'd take +6 vision over 75% chance for a second PD roll?
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by SyedAshrafulla
So you'd take +6 vision over 75% chance for a second PD roll?


Ya because he wouldn't fail in the first place
 
boilerup
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Originally posted by boilerup
Just from what I've seen of my corner and those on my team, I'd say if you're playing tight coverage, you'll rarely notice Ball Hawk kick in. If you're playing back a bit, my guess is you'll actually see faster breaks on the ball.

I'm not really sold on any VAs at this point, so certainly this one might not be worthwhile ... but there's just far too many variables with the sim to rely on seeing it on the screen to use it.

And just for laughs, watch by CB (15 BH, 10 LR) getting burned by a receiver 12 levels his senior:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699807&pbp_id=820022

For some reason, I'm on aggressive coverage here. Not wise ... and then the terrible missed tackle to boot.


OK. Switched to semi-aggressive for the next exhibition and looked even worse. This is still 15 BH, 10 LR. The guy isn't even making breaks on the ball ...

And this isn't some shitastic build ... 104 speed, 74 agility, 70 vision, 5 SV, 6 CD ... I should be moving toward the ball after it's released, eh?

Set to -25 coverage distance in both games, just to see the difference between aggressive and semi-aggressive and the actual breaks on the ball via Ball Hawk.

A couple examples ...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1598882
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1599538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1600676
Edited by boilerup on Aug 12, 2009 11:01:52
Edited by boilerup on Aug 12, 2009 11:00:15
Edited by boilerup on Aug 12, 2009 10:59:44
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by boilerup
OK. Switched to semi-aggressive for the next exhibition and looked even worse. This is still 15 BH, 10 LR. The guy isn't even making breaks on the ball ...

And this isn't some shitastic build ... 104 speed, 74 agility, 70 vision, 5 SV, 6 CD ... I should be moving toward the ball after it's released, eh?

Set to -25 coverage distance in both games, just to see the difference between aggressive and semi-aggressive.

A couple examples ...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1598882
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1599538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1600676


If you're trying to prove a lot of people have no idea what they're talking about you don't have to. Much of us know.
 
boilerup
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
If you're trying to prove a lot of people have no idea what they're talking about you don't have to. Much of us know.


Mainly a lot of it is new to me ... this CB has been the No. 6 on my team for three seasons, so I've never got to play around with the build/tactics much.
Edited by boilerup on Aug 12, 2009 11:03:16
 
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Ballhawk/Clutch/Football Genius/3DS
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by boilerup
OK. Switched to semi-aggressive for the next exhibition and looked even worse. This is still 15 BH, 10 LR. The guy isn't even making breaks on the ball ...

And this isn't some shitastic build ... 104 speed, 74 agility, 70 vision, 5 SV, 6 CD ... I should be moving toward the ball after it's released, eh?

Set to -25 coverage distance in both games, just to see the difference between aggressive and semi-aggressive and the actual breaks on the ball via Ball Hawk.

A couple examples ...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1598882
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1599538
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=699820&pbp_id=1600676


You just don't have enough x factor. Remake your player and hope for the best.
 
chronofire
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I think you guys are looking into the word "sees" too much.
 
Iron Maiden
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Originally posted by chronofire
I think you guys are looking into the word "sees" too much.


so you don't think there will be a vision check when it says "activates when you see the ball coming"?
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Iron Maiden
so you don't think there will be a vision check when it says "activates when you see the ball coming"?


There is one.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
There is one.


For sure. There are vision checks for that, and vision checks for whether or not you can see the H.B. has the ball and is running with it. Just about everything has to pass a vision check.
 
DenFede
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Brilliant. I was just about to make a thread like this
 
ericb45696
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I like the Football Genius VA . gotta love a VA that's active EVERY play and there is no guessing about IMO.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by ericb45696
I like the Football Genius VA . gotta love a VA that's active EVERY play and there is no guessing about IMO.


I do too, but I also like Ball Hawk.
I'm just assuming it's working right if it's there. lol
 
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