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Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch

I thought Agility was accuracy only....Good to know. Where should Agility top out? I have Kicking at 113 with Vis, Con and Str in the low 70's but only 29 Agility - how high should it be taken?


The argument is that agility helps you get to the ball faster, increasing kick velocity. That helps distance and how straight the ball goes.

The current thought is to take both agility and strength to 60, and that's enough for both. If you're only putting into one, AGL is better, so I like to take AGL to 60 then STR to 60, but some like to alternate the caps.

Originally posted by HULK
Maybe I'm different, but I think its:

kicking > vision > strength > confidence


Bars don't necessarily mean better performance, people forget that all the time it seems.

confidence is a major, so you want to get stuck into it as soon as you are done with kicking

Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.

Yup, my lvl 30 with just 27 str was 12/14 from 40+ and 5/7 from 50+ this season. Not too bad for no strength.

Originally posted by ijg
Originally posted by matta

Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.

Yup, my lvl 30 with just 27 str was 12/14 from 40+ and 5/7 from 50+ this season. Not too bad for no strength.



And my kicker couldn't hit shit from 40+ until I started pumping str past 30 (see his season 8). It seems to vary by build. He also couldn't hit TBs until I pumped strength. I wouldn't say it's better than vision though and I'd do it last after kick, con, vis.

Originally posted by ijg
Originally posted by matta

Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.

Yup, my lvl 30 with just 27 str was 12/14 from 40+ and 5/7 from 50+ this season. Not too bad for no strength.


Very interesting. How were your touchbacks?

Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Originally posted by ijg

Originally posted by matta


Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.

Yup, my lvl 30 with just 27 str was 12/14 from 40+ and 5/7 from 50+ this season. Not too bad for no strength.



And my kicker couldn't hit shit from 40+ until I started pumping str past 30 (see his season 8). It seems to vary by build. He also couldn't hit TBs until I pumped strength. I wouldn't say it's better than vision though and I'd do it last after kick, con, vis.

My kicker is hitting 50+ yarders with 18 STR. The big thing that improved him from last season (0/3) to this season (2/3) is Vis (he was slow built, so he had no VIS last season). I'll eventually get STR up as well next season.

Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by ijg

Originally posted by matta


Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.

Yup, my lvl 30 with just 27 str was 12/14 from 40+ and 5/7 from 50+ this season. Not too bad for no strength.


Very interesting. How were your touchbacks?


low but interestingly, my other K who is a high strength, low conf/vis experiment is only maybe 5 yds better, if that. And that was after I started putting booming kick on him! Before that hardly any difference.

Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by TheGreatPuma

And my kicker couldn't hit shit from 40+ until I started pumping str past 30 (see his season 8). It seems to vary by build. He also couldn't hit TBs until I pumped strength. I wouldn't say it's better than vision though and I'd do it last after kick, con, vis.

My kicker is hitting 50+ yarders with 18 STR. The big thing that improved him from last season (0/3) to this season (2/3) is Vis (he was slow built, so he had no VIS last season). I'll eventually get STR up as well next season.

Yup, I've seen several other kickers do the same thing. Grundle OTOH was 2/16 lifetime from 40+ (2/11 season 8 alone when his vision was triple capped and I was saving SP to cap str. Str probably averaged about 29 that season) until I started pushing his strength up. Since pushing his str he's 16/22 from 40+, including 13/14 from 40-49 (he was 1/9 from 40-49 during season 8)

I have no explanation for why that was the case, but you can't argue with the stats.