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El Kabong
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Originally posted by trazer
Thats better. At least some answers and not just crying about their crying. TE's even in the NFL are fairly balanced. Not the fastest, not the strongest, but pretty all around. They FIND a way to beat you as best they can. Out run some people, out muscle other people. Just catch the ball and make sure you can hold on to it..thats your job when you go out for a pass. Not to take it for a 50 yard TD..you are not the WR.

Your job is not to pancake every DE you are up against, just slow em down...pancaking them is for the O-linemen.

Just be good at both..not great at either.... and you will excel.


Good point, and very true from what I've seen in this game.

Basically if you want to build a high speed/high agility TE it's fine, they can succeed. The most basic cure to the drops though is to use the player in a way which maximizes their build. If your TE is high level, like 50+, and is playing against similar leveled competition, then 60 strength and high speed and agility aren't going to prevent passes from getting knocked loose on their own, strength isn't high enough. What will prevent the passes from getting knocked loose as often is to use the high speed and agility TE to his strengths. This means the TE should only be running routes which put him in open space. Short passes where the TE has to fight for the ball against a LBer or safety are going to get knocked loose a lot with a high speed and agility WR.

If your TE is only going to be used to get 8 yard catches all day, then you don't need high speed, but you do need high strength because your TE would be a possession type, not a speedster, in that situation.

So in short, only give a speedster TE routes which his speed and agility will be the most useful. If you are using the TE in a manner where strength and short posession are the most important, then the TEs build needs to match that.

 
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Originally posted by El Kabong
Originally posted by trazer

Thats better. At least some answers and not just crying about their crying. TE's even in the NFL are fairly balanced. Not the fastest, not the strongest, but pretty all around. They FIND a way to beat you as best they can. Out run some people, out muscle other people. Just catch the ball and make sure you can hold on to it..thats your job when you go out for a pass. Not to take it for a 50 yard TD..you are not the WR.

Your job is not to pancake every DE you are up against, just slow em down...pancaking them is for the O-linemen.

Just be good at both..not great at either.... and you will excel.


Good point, and very true from what I've seen in this game.

Basically if you want to build a high speed/high agility TE it's fine, they can succeed. The most basic cure to the drops though is to use the player in a way which maximizes their build. If your TE is high level, like 50+, and is playing against similar leveled competition, then 60 strength and high speed and agility aren't going to prevent passes from getting knocked loose on their own, strength isn't high enough. What will prevent the passes from getting knocked loose as often is to use the high speed and agility TE to his strengths. This means the TE should only be running routes which put him in open space. Short passes where the TE has to fight for the ball against a LBer or safety are going to get knocked loose a lot with a high speed and agility WR.

If your TE is only going to be used to get 8 yard catches all day, then you don't need high speed, but you do need high strength because your TE would be a possession type, not a speedster, in that situation.

So in short, only give a speedster TE routes which his speed and agility will be the most useful. If you are using the TE in a manner where strength and short posession are the most important, then the TEs build needs to match that.



I agree with this. My TE is for the most part not a burner...but he does pretty good in the 8-12 yard range. My thoughts have always been that the TE should be the 3rd down guy as they are most likely to hold onto the ball.

As for high speed/agility...I would say your best bet is to get your TE the ability to make quick seperation in the short game. If he can't make quick cuts and then accelerate to get seperation he's not going to get the ball.
 
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ohhhh
finally something directly vs knocked loose.

Updates are:
New VA: "Nerves of Steel" - gives a second chance to reroll "knocked loose" passes
Updated VA's: Possession Receiver (gives boost to knocked loose pct),
 
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Originally posted by kwyjibo
ohhhh
finally something directly vs knocked loose.

Updates are:
New VA: "Nerves of Steel" - gives a second chance to reroll "knocked loose" passes
Updated VA's: Possession Receiver (gives boost to knocked loose pct),


Nice, finally a response to Jack Hammer. This is a must-have for TEs I think. I'm just working out which VA to drop for this. Currently I have:

15 Ball Hawk
15 Heart of a Champion
15 Slippery
8 Sure Hands

I think it may have to be HoaC. We just got promoted to AAA so if we do make the playoffs we won't be expected to make much of an impact.

 
Titus Pullo
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Just reset my VAs so I could max possession reciever. Hopefully that will do the trick.
 
bacon13
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I just maxed out Possession Receiver, Nerves of Steel, and am working on Mr. Reliable on my TE
 
Guppy, Inc
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according to bort, carrying will help stop the drops
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
according to bort, carrying will help stop the drops


could you post a link?
 
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Originally posted by agkarcher
Originally posted by Guppy, Inc

according to bort, carrying will help stop the drops


could you post a link?



I don't have a link, but I've seen that post of Bort's before--its legit.
 
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I would say that i have a pretty good TE here.....

in the last 4 seasons i have only had 14 dropped passes with 295 catches (2 seasons in AAA - 2 seasons in Pro)
including 3,827 yards and 45 TD's, oh and 101 pancakes as well.....

It is always nice to have an OC who knows how to use your guy.
 
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Originally posted by gtthom86
My tight end has 60 strength, 60+ catching, and soft capped carrying and confidence, maxed Mr Reliable, sure hands, and possession reciever. still has 1/3 of his passes knocked loose.

The thing is, i took carrying up 12 points last off season and have had more passes knocked loose since. I guess i have to take it to the 60 cap, but i'm worried it won't mean shit. any one have a TE, or know of one, that doesn't have issues with KL? Is it really carrying to 60?


That's about the same as mine, and I have 3 drops a game, more or less.
 
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