Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jbiller
95 speed / 50 agility is slow. If you want to be fast you need way more agility.

50 confidence is low, don't expect to do much in the playoffs unless carried.

55 Vision is extremely low for a QB. I might not be the biggest fan of Vision right now, but you need 65+ to be effective. Vision doesn't start to fall off until around 70, and it is worth getting it that high.

65 strength isn't that bad, but I highly recommend 70+ when it comes to dealing with Ball Hawk.

80 throwing is subpar.

Where the hell is you carrying?

And you're not mentioning your SAs. Tight Spiral, Pump Fake, and Field General are very important depending on what kind of team you're on. Pocket Presence is pretty nice too. And if you plan on being effective running, getting Quick Cut to 10 would be EXTREMELY helpful.

There is a reason QBs specialize their builds as rushing or throwing, there just aren't enough SPs to go around to be good at everything.

I know all the stuff you are telling me. I still believe that this build can be effective in casuals

Were the hell you going to find a QB with OVER

95 Speed 50 Agility

Over 55 Vision
OVER 65 Strength
OVER 80 throwing

and over 50 Confidence


It does not exist.....


Not to mention you don't need all that stuff


You don't Need 50 vision

You don't need 60 strength

you don't need over 50 confidence


You need to game plan for your build.....

Originally posted by dshearn
Were the hell you going to find a QB with OVER

95 Speed 50 Agility

Over 55 Vision
OVER 65 Strength
OVER 80 throwing

and over 50 Confidence


It does not exist.....


Not to mention you don't need all that stuff


You don't Need 50 vision

You don't need 60 strength

you don't need over 50 confidence


You need to game plan for your build.....


it does ... ive seen qbs with 70 throwing 100 speed 64 agility and 57 str.

i think your wrong you do need 50 vison cause you are gonna be a high lvl for sure
45 + if you dont have vison capped at that lvl hes a failer

Originally posted by MustangLife
Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson

im sorry im getting tired of all these other QBs calling them dual threats but they cant put up stats in each category means you put up numbers in passing and rushing

now last season my guy was doing good he was putting up huge numbers running and throwing then the owner got banned and so the team went CPU it sucked really bad so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 28 cap team but it was near the end of the season so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 34 team thats were the lvls were at he didnt do so well still got 100 yards rushing on 25 carrrys and fumbled alot
but this season i have got my self on a 28 cap team and

so far 2 scrim. games well one we lost 39-16 my QB went 10/16 63 yards 0 tds 0 ints
rushed 12 for 80 yards

1st. scrim. my qb went 7/9 for 154 yards and 1 TD
then rushed 3 for 31 yards

The Real Dual Threat Is Right Here

Terrelle The Freak Pryor #2 lvl 27
Attributes
Strength: 41.8
Speed: 83.9
Agility: 48.9
Stamina: 21.8
Vision: 50.8
Confidence: 37.8
Throwing: 53.8
Carrying: 27.9


Scrambler Abilities
On The Run: 2
Dump Pass: 2
Quick Cut: 3
Stiff Arm: 2
Demoralize: 1


Last Season Stats
164 /369 44.4 % comp. 1,391 yards 19tds 6ints

rushing 361 att. 3,118 yards 8.6 avg. 24 TDs

the only problem im having and fixing is fumbles his carrying is too low im well aware So carrying is going up

If you want him to be a dual threat a true dual threat your not gonna be able to do much with his speed. I say get is Speed to 85 with equipment. and Agility to 60. Everything else into Throwing/Vision/Strength and train Confidence and Stamina from now on.



thats what im doing i think its gonna be fine

and
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
how does it not ?
it scares defenses is he gonna throw or pass ?
when you have one that can go both ways
then its unstoppable with a good team

and

Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson
Originally posted by dshearn

Were the hell you going to find a QB with OVER

95 Speed 50 Agility

Over 55 Vision
OVER 65 Strength
OVER 80 throwing

and over 50 Confidence


It does not exist.....


Not to mention you don't need all that stuff


You don't Need 50 vision

You don't need 60 strength

you don't need over 50 confidence


You need to game plan for your build.....


it does ... ive seen qbs with 70 throwing 100 speed 64 agility and 57 str.

i think your wrong you do need 50 vison cause you are gonna be a high lvl for sure
45 + if you dont have vison capped at that lvl hes a failer


The QB would have to be in the 60s by that point his 80 throwing would be a joke...




I am at 55ish now...and have a closet full of passing trophies that would argue the point that you don't need 50 vision.......


Not saying my way is the only way to do things.....but To say a QB is going to fail with out 50+ vision at 45+ is wrong...period....


You can lead 3 different leagues at 3 different levels on 2 different teams with mid 40s vision.




Unless you mean as a rush.....in that Case ...i REALLY dont know.......... I did not pay that much attention to viscounts build when i was on his team... i just remember looking at his speed and agility.

So many RBs do well with out Vision...it almost makes me think Vision is a little over rated for QBs and RBs.


I wish Vision had a bigger impact on how they performed.

thats what im doing i think its gonna be fine

and
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
how does it not ?
it scares defenses is he gonna throw or pass ?
when you have one that can go both ways
then its unstoppable with a good team

and


It does not simply because you are SUBPAR at both of them. Going this route, all you are doing is decreasing your effectiveness on both skills, running and passing. A don't find a guy useful that is only ok at 2 different things. It would be better to have a player great at 1 thing.

Originally posted by joshw4288


thats what im doing i think its gonna be fine

and
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
how does it not ?
it scares defenses is he gonna throw or pass ?
when you have one that can go both ways
then its unstoppable with a good team

and


It does not simply because you are SUBPAR at both of them. Going this route, all you are doing is decreasing your effectiveness on both skills, running and passing. A don't find a guy useful that is only ok at 2 different things. It would be better to have a player great at 1 thing.

i agree and well its kinda like a HB o yeah he can run but when you have one that can run and catch you can go either way
my QBs bars are 54 passing and 51 rushing once i get my 34 EQ i will have over 90 speed for a lvl 34 but over 60 throwing
my QB has done alright for this season not a really hard team was faced yet tho

Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson
Originally posted by joshw4288



thats what im doing i think its gonna be fine

and
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
how does it not ?
it scares defenses is he gonna throw or pass ?
when you have one that can go both ways
then its unstoppable with a good team

and


It does not simply because you are SUBPAR at both of them. Going this route, all you are doing is decreasing your effectiveness on both skills, running and passing. A don't find a guy useful that is only ok at 2 different things. It would be better to have a player great at 1 thing.

i agree and well its kinda like a HB o yeah he can run but when you have one that can run and catch you can go either way
my QBs bars are 54 passing and 51 rushing once i get my 34 EQ i will have over 90 speed for a lvl 34 but over 60 throwing
my QB has done alright for this season not a really hard team was faced yet tho

I think the HB situation is slightly different simply because a HB already has great speed so the only think that has to be added is catching. A QB has a much broader range of skills to deal with to begin with (confidence, strength, throwing, vision) and then on top of that suddenly you want a dual threat well now you can add speed and agility to that as well and those are just the tactics that MUST be high. Between 6 skills that all must be in the 70-90 range to be effective, that just takes your QB's skill points to thin.

Originally posted by joshw4288
Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson

Originally posted by joshw4288




thats what im doing i think its gonna be fine

and
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
how does it not ?
it scares defenses is he gonna throw or pass ?
when you have one that can go both ways
then its unstoppable with a good team

and


It does not simply because you are SUBPAR at both of them. Going this route, all you are doing is decreasing your effectiveness on both skills, running and passing. A don't find a guy useful that is only ok at 2 different things. It would be better to have a player great at 1 thing.

i agree and well its kinda like a HB o yeah he can run but when you have one that can run and catch you can go either way
my QBs bars are 54 passing and 51 rushing once i get my 34 EQ i will have over 90 speed for a lvl 34 but over 60 throwing
my QB has done alright for this season not a really hard team was faced yet tho

I think the HB situation is slightly different simply because a HB already has great speed so the only think that has to be added is catching. A QB has a much broader range of skills to deal with to begin with (confidence, strength, throwing, vision) and then on top of that suddenly you want a dual threat well now you can add speed and agility to that as well and those are just the tactics that MUST be high. Between 6 skills that all must be in the 70-90 range to be effective, that just takes your QB's skill points to thin.

yeah you are right HB its only like 1 skill and it doesnt have to get that high
but for a QB speed and agility should be higher then throwing
i wish my guyses team would use him more tho lol rushing and throwing they are just useing him for throwing and like 4 rushes a game

Originally posted by dshearn
You need to game plan for your build.....

This was the smartest thing said in this thread. Even in real life you won't find Tom Brady's passing abilities mixed with Michael Vick's elusiveness. Screw SPs and whatever in GLB. You won't have your 90/90 Throwing/Vision mixed with Speedster WR elusiveness, but you don't need it to be an effective dual threat.

ok so who has a Qb that they think is good on both sides passing and rushing ?