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mcnulty
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What's more important?

 
UltraX
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Vision by far. Vision helps with getting open, KR/PR if you go down that route and ultimately catching the ball. Carrying doesnt help much because most WR are facing S and CB, not DT. Big strength difference
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by UltraX
Carrying doesnt help much because most WR are facing S and CB, not DT. Big strength difference


Ouch, no. Carrying is important if you want to hold on to the ball when that SS hits you.

 
mcnulty
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What if both are softcapped already and Speed, Agility and Catching are all past the 68 cap. Jumping is softcapped and Confidence is 44. SAs are 4-4-2-2-1 and 5-5-3-3-7 (with EQ).

I have 16 SPs to use. I'm torn on what to do...I'm thinking add a couple SPs to Head Fake and Juke and then start working on the next cap for Vision or Carrying. Thoughts?
 
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Originally posted by mcnulty
What if both are softcapped already and Speed, Agility and Catching are all past the 68 cap. Jumping is softcapped and Confidence is 44. SAs are 4-4-2-2-1 and 5-5-3-3-7 (with EQ).

I have 16 SPs to use. I'm torn on what to do...I'm thinking add a couple SPs to Head Fake and Juke and then start working on the next cap for Vision or Carrying. Thoughts?


I would consider getting Jumping to 60 or 68.
 
sjkiller81
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Speed up to next cap then vision to 60
Edited by sjkiller81 on Jun 18, 2009 06:45:54
 
UltraX
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by UltraX

Carrying doesnt help much because most WR are facing S and CB, not DT. Big strength difference


Ouch, no. Carrying is important if you want to hold on to the ball when that SS hits you.



You only need 20 carrying not to fumble alot if your not on return
 
JD Cuda
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Originally posted by UltraX
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by UltraX


Carrying doesnt help much because most WR are facing S and CB, not DT. Big strength difference


Ouch, no. Carrying is important if you want to hold on to the ball when that SS hits you.



You only need 20 carrying not to fumble alot if your not on return


How much do you need to avoid Pass Knocked Loose? Evidently, 50 carrying is not enough for that.
 
sjkiller81
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Look, you will never not have one knocked loose. All you can do is reduce it. Why I say that is that god forbid once in a while you will match up against a CB, SS, MLB, FS that is better than you. I know I know it is hard to fathom and almost blasphemy to say but it is true.

With that said, 60 carry would be nice. I have a goal to get there but I am working on a WR that can run with the ball not just catch it.
 
JD Cuda
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Oh, I don't mind how y'all build your WRs. I retired the one I had with 50 carrying this offseason after he averaged 1 knocked loose per game, lol. I'm just enjoying watching my CBs knock 'em loose now.
 
Mob-6
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I'd say go for vision and come back to carrying when better data is available on it. It has been largely neglected by WRs. Last season was the first time it got serious looks due to the knocked loose implementation and Bort admitting it helps trigger elusive SAs.
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by UltraX
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by UltraX


Carrying doesnt help much because most WR are facing S and CB, not DT. Big strength difference


Ouch, no. Carrying is important if you want to hold on to the ball when that SS hits you.



You only need 20 carrying not to fumble alot if your not on return


Who said fumble?
 
Darrick213
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Originally posted by sjkiller81
Look, you will never not have one knocked loose. All you can do is reduce it. Why I say that is that god forbid once in a while you will match up against a CB, SS, MLB, FS that is better than you. I know I know it is hard to fathom and almost blasphemy to say but it is true.

With that said, 60 carry would be nice. I have a goal to get there but I am working on a WR that can run with the ball not just catch it.


49+carrying here, 69 catching and mr reliable

still got knocked loose 3 times last game
 
sjkiller81
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Could it be that you matched up against a player that was better? One game isnt enough to make a call. You will have to gather a sampling over a season.
 
halfeze13
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Originally posted by Darrick213
Originally posted by sjkiller81

Look, you will never not have one knocked loose. All you can do is reduce it. Why I say that is that god forbid once in a while you will match up against a CB, SS, MLB, FS that is better than you. I know I know it is hard to fathom and almost blasphemy to say but it is true.

With that said, 60 carry would be nice. I have a goal to get there but I am working on a WR that can run with the ball not just catch it.


49+carrying here, 69 catching and mr reliable

still got knocked loose 3 times last game


is this because strength is low?
 


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