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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
+30% to agility AND strength when rushing the passer is absolutely huge. the only knock against this VA is if your player just doesn't get that many snaps where this VA would kick in (3rd & 4th on passing downs).

if no one is finding that their dlinemen does better in these situations while this VA is maxed, it makes me think it must be broken.


I agree. I say about 60-70% of my sacks come on 3rd down. I don't know enough about JTS to say anythin good or bad but I do fine with out it.
 
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Ironically enough, I took all my points out of pass rusher and then got three sacks on third down the next game. Not sure how to explain that.


statistical fluctuations...
 
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I like it since I added it, I think it got me 2 of my 6 sacks in this preseason.
 
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Originally posted by Seleni
I like it since I added it, I think it got me 2 of my 6 sacks in this preseason.


I am not trying to be a smartass, but how would you know that JTS was responsible? There isnt any physical notification when this works, it just helps you pass the vision check. I would think the only way you could attribute its success is to compare your results before and after adding it.
 
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
+30% to agility AND strength when rushing the passer is absolutely huge.


this.

Originally posted by PsychoMan001
if no one is finding that their dlinemen does better in these situations while this VA is maxed, it makes me think it must be broken.


and this.

 
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Originally posted by Madd_Maxx
Originally posted by Seleni

I like it since I added it, I think it got me 2 of my 6 sacks in this preseason.


I am not trying to be a smartass, but how would you know that JTS was responsible? There isnt any physical notification when this works, it just helps you pass the vision check. I would think the only way you could attribute its success is to compare your results before and after adding it.


Understood.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660425&pbp_id=1065422
I have never seen my DE get off the ball like that before, when I didn't have it. Vision only went up 3 from my games last season, boost this offseason were mostly strength and tackle. I am just saying something special happened there, and it was 1st down, so you know it wasn't pass rusher, but I don't have any pass rusher VA.
That o-linemen was a Lvl 51, my DE is 43. I know I have no proof other than a couple plays this season, mainly that one. But I am a believer. I do have a clue ask your owner of Sophia Spiders if he respects my opinions.
Edited by Seleni on Jun 18, 2009 13:00:37
 
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Originally posted by Seleni


Understood.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660425&pbp_id=1065422
I have never seen my DE get off the ball like that before, when I didn't have it. Vision only went up 3 from my games last season, boost this offseason were mostly strength and tackle. I am just saying something special happened there, and it was 1st down, so you know it wasn't pass rusher, but I don't have any pass rusher VA.


fair enough.
 
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I would not put too much in it, I think that would be selfish, could cause penalties wich hurt the team, I might go to 4 at the most.
 
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I get alot of plays quicker even then that I think it might be First Step not sure.
Originally posted by Seleni
Originally posted by Madd_Maxx

Originally posted by Seleni


I like it since I added it, I think it got me 2 of my 6 sacks in this preseason.


I am not trying to be a smartass, but how would you know that JTS was responsible? There isnt any physical notification when this works, it just helps you pass the vision check. I would think the only way you could attribute its success is to compare your results before and after adding it.


Understood.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660425&pbp_id=1065422
I have never seen my DE get off the ball like that before, when I didn't have it. Vision only went up 3 from my games last season, boost this offseason were mostly strength and tackle. I am just saying something special happened there, and it was 1st down, so you know it wasn't pass rusher, but I don't have any pass rusher VA.
That o-linemen was a Lvl 51, my DE is 43. I know I have no proof other than a couple plays this season, mainly that one. But I am a believer. I do have a clue ask your owner of Sophia Spiders if he respects my opinions.


 
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Originally posted by kenkaniff
I get alot of plays quicker even then that I think it might be First Step not sure.




Yes, I have First Step on my top two DT's and it helps start them at a higher speed than normal when it kicks in. Its nice when you sack the QB before your DE's even gets near the OT.
 
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
+30% to agility AND strength when rushing the passer is absolutely huge. the only knock against this VA is if your player just doesn't get that many snaps where this VA would kick in (3rd & 4th on passing downs).

if no one is finding that their dlinemen does better in these situations while this VA is maxed, it makes me think it must be broken.


I don't necessarily think it is broken, but since all the OLine guys have Pass Blocker it just gets canceled out.
 
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Originally posted by jdros13


I don't necessarily think it is broken, but since all the OLine guys have Pass Blocker it just gets canceled out.


weird thing is I think its broken for the Oline guys too, I have zero Pass Rusher VA's and still get third down sacks and hurries.
Edited by Madd_Maxx on Jun 19, 2009 14:49:03
 
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Originally posted by Madd_Maxx
Originally posted by jdros13



I don't necessarily think it is broken, but since all the OLine guys have Pass Blocker it just gets canceled out.


weird thing is I think its broken for the Oline guys too, I have zero Pass Rusher VA's and still get third down sacks and hurries.


Is it broken, or just not a big affect?
 
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Originally posted by merk
Is it broken, or just not a big affect?


+30% on strength and agility? a big effect? hm...

 
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