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Shit, I have to apologize.

I had this thread mixed up with another thread. I don't think that teams should be forced to change mid season. Period. The promotion demotion of teams should take care of that.

Originally posted by Sulfadias0


There are quite a few teams in the Pro's that were PURCHASED this season. They didn't fight their way up through the ranks etc, they just bought their way in.

I for one chose the SE Asia AA when I could have bought an AAA or Pro team because I wanted to make that "journey" up the ranks, have some history battling through the playoffs etc etc with my personnel and learn the game as a team.

We won the AA championship that first season and moved up to AAA.
We've gone 16-0 in AAA and averaged 62 points for and 6 against.

Aside from a few match ups, the league has been less than challenging.

We happen to be in a conference that also has 2 other super star teams that could on any given day beat us. 15-1 Ho Chi Mean and 14-2 Manila(2 losses against the 16-0 and 15-1 team)

These 3 teams could give the current pro teams a run for their money THIS season if we were in the same division. I'm not even including the quality teams on the Alpha side...

But since only 1 team from each conference can move up... no matter what... A lot of stellar teams will be forced to dick around in AAA for 3+ seasons just to move up to a division where they could be contenders from day 1.

Why?

Because some folks were able to buy their way in and some folks have to earn their way in?

Word on the street is that they are going to be re-organizing the South American and Southeast Asian brackets and adding an African bracket.

If SE Asia is to be restructured/balanced, NOW is the time to do it.


All we are after is competitive leagues that are fun and challenging and interesting. Forcing stud teams to wait 3+ seasons while lesser teams stick around and get blown out is retarded.

We are tired of blowing out other teams and want competition, some of you however, seem to want to keep the less competitive teams around because they are not a threat to you and you can pad your stats w/ easy wins and have a better chance at winning a championship.

You need to grow a pair because we're coming to get ya.



So let's screw over the people who purchased losing teams even more? If you are truly as good as you claim to be, you'll make it up the ladder easily through the current system.

Why is now the time to restructure? We do not know if we will be receiving more brackets etc. (Which is likely since we happen to be a smaller league atm..)

Why are we only focusing on pro league? Clearly the AAA and AA leagues have teams that are awful too, oh yes because it really isn't about evening it out, it's about "I want to be in PRO and I want it NOW."

Edit: If one of your undefeated teams (Seattle) can lose to the 8th seed, the massive moveups aren't necessary. Just goes to show that your stellar teams are probably in the right division if they are still there next year.

Owned.

Originally posted by Nv1sion



So let's screw over the people who purchased losing teams even more? If you are truly as good as you claim to be, you'll make it up the ladder easily through the current system.

Why is now the time to restructure? We do not know if we will be receiving more brackets etc. (Which is likely since we happen to be a smaller league atm..)

Why are we only focusing on pro league? Clearly the AAA and AA leagues have teams that are awful too, oh yes because it really isn't about evening it out, it's about "I want to be in PRO and I want it NOW."

Edit: If one of your undefeated teams (Seattle) can lose to the 8th seed, the massive moveups aren't necessary. Just goes to show that your stellar teams are probably in the right division if they are still there next year.

How is moving stud teams to pro and demoting questionable teams to AAA/AA screwing them over? If anything its putting them in their appropriate leagues where they can be successful against equal level competition.

Word has it that SE Asia and South America will be restructured similar to the European leagues.

We are focusing on the Pro leagues because the BEST teams in SE Asia should be in the Pro leagues. This includes any team with a 33-36+ over all rating from SE Asia A, AA, AAA etc with a strong record. Look at the top 4 teams in A, AA, and AAA. One could make a case that ALL of them are better than the bottom 12 teams in the Pro division.

Yet due to current mechanics, only 1 quality team from each division can move up per season... do the math... some of these teams that could compete and BEAT current Pro teams may not make it to the Pros for 6-7 seasons... Considering that players skills start to diminish after 10 seasons... and thats just ridiculous.

When owners/players/teams only have 10 seasons before there is a massive turn over and the team you own no longer has any of your own players or the original members players due to retirement, its time to start over and take that team down to the A divisions again I guess? So the time is NOW to get the balancing right, get the best teams playing the best teams, the time IS ticking and everyone is on the clock.

All of the expansion teams in Pro, AAA, AA, which have struggled should be moved down to the leagues they fit in and the stud teams should be moved up and manually BALANCED. They made a mistake in the way they handled adding expansion teams and the 100 point blow outs are prime examples of this.

I'd prefer to not go too deep in the Seattle deal, but I personally thought they were over rated, almost losing to a ton of teams with terrible records and never winning convincingly. Not the most dangerous 16-0 team and I know most of the people I spoke with were expecting a 1st or 2nd round "upset".

But don't worry, they've managed to secure themselves in the Pro's by finding a team willing to switch, so you'll get to beat them down next season!

jesus christ are you twits still going on about this?

--j

Because you shouldn't have a say in what the new owner of the team gets. He purchased the team, he should get the chance (a full season) to try to rebuild in his current league.

And no one can make a case that the top 4 teams from all leagues are better than the top 12 because looking at team stats when they are dealing with less than 10 chemistry as well as adding players to a previously cpu team. A lot of these lower teams have made a big progression towards becoming better teams.

And the teams that would lose in those matchups are the ones that are going down anyways.

Every 10 years there will not be a massive turnover, as players are constantly signing developing etc. And, the players can still play after ther 10 years of stardom, their skills just begin to deteriorate.

Focusing on the Pro league because the best teams are there? You seem to have a nack for bringing up the expansion teams all the time. The problem is, you guys solely focus on the bad teams in the pro league, but ignore the bad ones in your league. It's hypocrisy.

We are 2 seasons into the so called 10 season cap. (We have yet to see if this massive deterioration will even happen, as most players have already built up starters and backups.) The game is still changing, at this time the leagues are FINE with how they are. Bort will be adding new addons to the league, which will lead to even more confusion and chaos, why add to it?

I'll say it once again. Have patience. Just because you want your team to be all high and mighty, doesn't mean you should screw over other teams in the process. If your team is truly good it will advance like the tweety's and the hitmen did.

Originally posted by Nv1sion

Why are we only focusing on pro league? Clearly the AAA and AA leagues have teams that are awful too, oh yes because it really isn't about evening it out, it's about "I want to be in PRO and I want it NOW."

exactly. can we now declare this stupid piece of shit thread over?

Originally posted by Sulfadias0
Originally posted by shadow46x2

jesus christ are you twits still going on about this?

--j

Shut yo' 0-16 ass and relegate down to the cellar of A where your team belongs!!



pfft...you fear our massive suckitude...i know it....you're afraid we'll rub off on you

--j

Simply put, if the BCS can't propperly rank college teams, what makes you think you can arbitrarily rank teams and determine what league they should be in? (especially when you consider you are comparing teams with 0 common opponents)

The only fair way to it is by the normal competative method. Maybe increase it to 4 up/4 down.

There is no way there is going to be a massive and arbitrary restructuring of the SE Asia.

In my opinion it is like this you guys who are dominating your leagues in the lower leagues does not mean you could of dominated in the pro league use the structure and if your that good and that dominating you should make pro in 2 or 3 seasons top but just cause you can walk all over a 1A team does not mean you can or will do that in the pros. It also does not mean you would not be competative in the pros I have players on a AA team we dominated our league but were asking to go straight to pros. We should make aaa next year and if we do good then we will be pro the following. How would you guys feel if we followed your advice brought you to the pros and then you guys went 2-14 would ya be screaming it's unfair there too. Work your way up like I said if your that good then you will be pro in a couple seasons.

Originally posted by Leksington
if the BCS can't propperly rank college teams

Oklahoma FTW!