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Adderfist
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Originally posted by jessecuster
My speed before equipment is 65.24.








Still way to low. Really should be 74 at the lowest for speed and agility.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by jessecuster
My speed before equipment is 65.24.








Still is way too low.

Do you have EQ somewhere other than speed?
 
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Originally posted by Bukowski


Still is way too low.

Do you have EQ somewhere other than speed?


I have one piece of equipment that is going towards Agility.


I haven't been able to do at least 2 upgrades due to not having any money to afford them, for all of my equipment.





Edited by jessecuster on May 21, 2009 07:08:11
Edited by jessecuster on May 21, 2009 07:08:00
 
Seleni
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WAY WAY WAY to slow for Lvl 44. You say elusive back, nope, this is a balanced back.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by jessecuster
Originally posted by Bukowski



Still is way too low.

Do you have EQ somewhere other than speed?


I have one piece of equipment that is going towards Agility.


I haven't been able to do at least 2 upgrades due to not having any money to afford them, for all of my equipment.



Well for one thing, you need to get all of your EQ into Speed.

Then you need to get Speed up to 73-74 naturally.

Then you need to get Agility third capped, because you said that you have EQ into Agility, so it must not be third capped.

Or to be perfectly honest, I think you might want to just start over with a new RB, and build him the right way from the start. If you wanted to do this, you would be MUCH better off in the end.

The main thing that you need to learn, is how to cap things. You seem to leave attributes in between the caps, which isn't smart. You have Strength sitting @ 58, instead of just bringing it to 60. You have Speed somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd cap, plus you have Agility in between the 2nd and 3rd cap.

When you're adding points to an attribute, don't stop until you reach the next cap. Don't ever leave an attribute at 55, take that shit to 60.xx.

Hopefully you understand what I'm saying.
Edited by Bukowski on May 21, 2009 07:58:36
 
Gargus
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by Gargus

He's going to continue sucking if he doesn't get conf up... but whatever


For one, you don't even have a high level RB. There are plenty of RBs that do very well with mid-thirties Confidence. I agree that it is kind of important, but it's no where near as important as Speed/Agility.

Secondly, the guy has something like 54 natural Speed @ lvl 44, and you think Confidence is going to cure his problems?


While I agree, his question was about what happened to his build this year. Obviously, speed is an issue, and my lvl 13 back already has about 64 in natural speed. However, if we were to take a look at possible reasons for the sudden lack of production, one possibility is lack of confidence.

Confidence plays a role in every position, some more so than others. I could be wrong about RB's. As you clearly stated, I don't even have a high level RB, so there goes my credibility. But, I do know that successful, high level players have pretty good amounts of confidence.

If i'm wrong, I will relinquish the title of knowledge master to you, oh great bukowiski. But until then, try not to be a dick.
 
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Originally posted by Gargus
If i'm wrong, I will relinquish the title of knowledge master to you, oh great bukowiski. But until then, try not to be a dick.


You are the one who got all butt hurt (see your "whatever" post), not Bukowiski. Kind of made you the one acting like a dick, imo. I do, however, tend to agree with you on the confidence, esp. considering the per-play morale and energy issues new this season......but only after speed and agility
Edited by FatNasty on May 21, 2009 10:03:50
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by FatNasty
Originally posted by Gargus

If i'm wrong, I will relinquish the title of knowledge master to you, oh great bukowiski. But until then, try not to be a dick.


You are the one who got all butt hurt (see your "whatever" post), not Bukowiski. Kind of made you the one acting like a dick, imo. I do, however, tend to agree with you on the confidence, esp. considering the per-play morale and energy issues new this season......but only after speed and agility


Yep, I agree with this.

I wasn't saying not to worry about Confidence, I was just saying to worry about it after Speed and Agility.

All the Confidence in the world isn't going to do shit, if you don't have an adequate build in the first place.

Confidence is going to allow your player to keep performing at a high level, it's not going to make him perform at a high level.
 
Gargus
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by FatNasty

Originally posted by Gargus


If i'm wrong, I will relinquish the title of knowledge master to you, oh great bukowiski. But until then, try not to be a dick.


You are the one who got all butt hurt (see your "whatever" post), not Bukowiski. Kind of made you the one acting like a dick, imo. I do, however, tend to agree with you on the confidence, esp. considering the per-play morale and energy issues new this season......but only after speed and agility


Yep, I agree with this.

I wasn't saying not to worry about Confidence, I was just saying to worry about it after Speed and Agility.

All the Confidence in the world isn't going to do shit, if you don't have an adequate build in the first place.

Confidence is going to allow your player to keep performing at a high level, it's not going to make him perform at a high level.


I agree with that 100%. But since he made it clear that he was performing at a high level last season, and there was some drop off this season, I was just trying to figure out why. Maybe he switched leagues, and his speed isn't good anymore... who knows.

Trust me, I think he needs more speed just as much as the next guy... but what he was asking was why the drop off.
 
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Originally posted by FatNasty
Originally posted by Gargus

If i'm wrong, I will relinquish the title of knowledge master to you, oh great bukowiski. But until then, try not to be a dick.


You are the one who got all butt hurt (see your "whatever" post), not Bukowiski. Kind of made you the one acting like a dick, imo. I do, however, tend to agree with you on the confidence, esp. considering the per-play morale and energy issues new this season......but only after speed and agility


Yea, i probably did. I guess what i was getting at was, just because I don't have a high level running back doesn't mean my point is invalid.
 
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Don't underestimate confidence.
Lack of confidence causes RBs to be indecisive. I would get confidence to the low 40s (some training, some skill points) and then build speed/agility evenly.
 
Duo
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Damn dude, my level 29 HB has as much speed and agility as you do, work on that!
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Duo
Damn dude, my level 29 HB has as much speed and agility as you do, work on that!


Your lvl 29 is lacking in Speed too!
 
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