Warrior General Games

Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Motiak

You take agility and strength higher because of the automatic leveling gains that you get, not because of your equipment. You save SPs because you're getting your automtaic gains into high caps than would be the case with getting speed up higher.

The fact is that if you spend 15 points to increase agility 3 points from 75 to 78 to reach the 5th cap and then add equipment to speed when you only take it to 68, that is a waste of SPs. You could have just left Agility at 75 and used those same 15 SP to increase Speed 3 points (at 4:1), put those 3 points of equipment into Agility, end up with the exact same Speed/Agility and still had 3 SPs left over to use somewhere else. Level gains have 0 impact on this.

you guys are talking past each other.

you put the equipment whereever you want to make your player perform the best at that moment. this may mean you don't put them into the highest attribute. most players are probably pumping up an attribute way high and plan to round out the build down the road at some point. while they're pumping that attribute up, to eventually take advantage of level gains, they don't want to also put their equipment into that attribute. in order to perform, they need to put it into another attribute to help round out the build for now and help their player perform better.

Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Motiak

You take agility and strength higher because of the automatic leveling gains that you get, not because of your equipment. You save SPs because you're getting your automtaic gains into high caps than would be the case with getting speed up higher.

The fact is that if you spend 15 points to increase agility 3 points from 75 to 78 to reach the 5th cap and then add equipment to speed when you only take it to 68, that is a waste of SPs. You could have just left Agility at 75 and used those same 15 SP to increase Speed 3 points (at 4:1), put those 3 points of equipment into Agility, end up with the exact same Speed/Agility and still had 3 SPs left over to use somewhere else. Level gains have 0 impact on this.

I really don't understand how nobody on this forum seem to understand simple math.

You don't use equipment to make up for not hitting a cap. You're thinking in the short term, you really should be thinking long term.

Level gains have impact because they're more valuable with each successive cap. Thus rush to the caps. Equipment is just bonus added on, you're thinking about it the wrong way IMO.

Originally posted by bovineblitzkrieg
Originally posted by nottom

Originally posted by Motiak


You take agility and strength higher because of the automatic leveling gains that you get, not because of your equipment. You save SPs because you're getting your automtaic gains into high caps than would be the case with getting speed up higher.

The fact is that if you spend 15 points to increase agility 3 points from 75 to 78 to reach the 5th cap and then add equipment to speed when you only take it to 68, that is a waste of SPs. You could have just left Agility at 75 and used those same 15 SP to increase Speed 3 points (at 4:1), put those 3 points of equipment into Agility, end up with the exact same Speed/Agility and still had 3 SPs left over to use somewhere else. Level gains have 0 impact on this.

I really don't understand how nobody on this forum seem to understand simple math.

You don't use equipment to make up for not hitting a cap. You're thinking in the short term, you really should be thinking long term.

Level gains have impact because they're more valuable with each successive cap. Thus rush to the caps. Equipment is just bonus added on, you're thinking about it the wrong way IMO.

Pretend I'm a 12 year old and explain to me how spending 5 SP to achieve the exact same thing as spending 4 SP is better?

Equipment should be part of you build plan. If it isn't then you are making a mistake and most people here seem to be making that same mistake.

Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by bovineblitzkrieg

Originally posted by nottom


Originally posted by Motiak



You take agility and strength higher because of the automatic leveling gains that you get, not because of your equipment. You save SPs because you're getting your automtaic gains into high caps than would be the case with getting speed up higher.

The fact is that if you spend 15 points to increase agility 3 points from 75 to 78 to reach the 5th cap and then add equipment to speed when you only take it to 68, that is a waste of SPs. You could have just left Agility at 75 and used those same 15 SP to increase Speed 3 points (at 4:1), put those 3 points of equipment into Agility, end up with the exact same Speed/Agility and still had 3 SPs left over to use somewhere else. Level gains have 0 impact on this.

I really don't understand how nobody on this forum seem to understand simple math.

You don't use equipment to make up for not hitting a cap. You're thinking in the short term, you really should be thinking long term.

Level gains have impact because they're more valuable with each successive cap. Thus rush to the caps. Equipment is just bonus added on, you're thinking about it the wrong way IMO.

Pretend I'm a 12 year old and explain to me how spending 5 SP to achieve the exact same thing as spending 4 SP is better?

Equipment should be part of you build plan. If it isn't then you are making a mistake and most people here seem to be making that same mistake.

It's not per se. But if the slow builder eventually plans on bringing every skill they will use equipment in up to the same cap then your problem evaporates. Furthermore, this method DOES net you more flexibility, because you CAN take your primary skill higher than you otherwise would have been able to. For some this is very useful, but I suppose if you are very confident in your desired build numbers, this advantage isn't very worthwhile.

Originally posted by nottom


Pretend I'm a 12 year old and explain to me how spending 5 SP to achieve the exact same thing as spending 4 SP is better?

Equipment should be part of you build plan. If it isn't then you are making a mistake and most people here seem to be making that same mistake.


Look at it this way.

Let's say you want to have 81 speed. To get there, you either have to use equipment or spend the sp to get there.

Now, you can get agility up faster and let the natural level gains help you get to the agility level you want or you can put the extra equipment into agility and spend the sp to get speed from 74 to 81.

So you are going to spend the sp to take 1 attribute from 74 to 81 either way. Why not do it with the one that is going to get higher auto level sp gains?

Is playing on evasive pass rushing generally best?

Originally posted by Slightly Hyphy
Is playing on evasive pass rushing generally best?

generally, but not always. There are some low strength, high agility/speed guard builds out there, but playing % your more likely to have an agility speed advantage than a strength advantage.