Warrior General Games

Originally posted by oronis
Originally posted by Focker

I enjoyed this game last season more than any other season I've been here, and I've been here since the beginning. I found that I was able to come up with game plans on the defensive side that helped improve two defenses significantly. This season is almost the exact opposite of last year, and I think it's mainly due to the VAs.

I will have my guys in position to make the play, only to watch them flash, shrivel up, "fall down go boom", whatever you want to call it, over and over and over. I can understand how a CB may not be able to stop a HB with a full head of steam, but there's no reason that 6'4" 250lb LBs and larger safeties shouldn't be able to do SOMETHING when a runner gets loose. I'll have three or four guys with a great angle, but all three will go down like dominos.

I'm assuming this is because of those VA things, but what can I do on defense to counteract this?? Do I need to tell my players to increase confidence? Strength? Vision? What??

Please help, as this is becoming very frustrating.

As a D-Co, your job is in bold. If you've done that, then you've done your job. If your players don't have enough skill to complete the play, then that's on them.



exactly

Originally posted by pottsman
Looks like your team has very low vision. I'd guess not many players are even at 60. They're falling for headfakes every time. More vision, Super Vision AEs, and avoid fake %.

It's an issue with vision, but 60 is not enough, heck at USAPL, 70 is not enough. The bottom line is that elusive backs have quick feet, but defense does not have any avoid fake VAs, and they are just getting screwed by elusive backs this season.

That is an agility/vision issue. The RB is juking your guys out.

Here is what I would do: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_create_defense.pl?team_id=442&thumbnail=56738

(left to right)

CB 1 - man WR 1 | HB | blitz
FS - man HB | WR 1 | blitz
ROLB - man HB | blitz
MLB - man HB | FB | blitz or zone
LOLB - man TE | HB | blitz
SS - man TE | HB | blitz
CB 2 - man WR 2 | HB | blitz
all four D-linemen blitzing RDE, DT, NT moved as far weak as possible, LDE depending on what other plays they may use in that situation.

For the LOLB and SS, if it is a pass they will cover the TE, if it is a run they will switch to the HB. His HB will still juke your guys out but this will put a lot more of them around him much quicker. The problem with the 3-4 and weakside runs is that you can only move your NT as far weak as your C and a lot of times you need a big presence at the point of attack or the LG will blow up your LB. Going to a 4-3 vs the weak run allows you to move your DT between the LT and the LG and this basically puts 6 defenders between the LG and the sideline, which should be pretty formidable. Also if your CB1 has pretty good strength and you set him to power pass rush he should many times be able to plow over the WR trying to block him. Setting him to WR 1 | HB means that on a rushing play he wil automatically try to cover the HB instead of WR 1.

tpat, your link takes us back to our home page.

Originally posted by Brutus Buckeye
tpat, your link takes us back to our home page.

Its the link to Custom D Play Creator

Oh sorry. I just had the FS on the line of scrimmage where the CB 3 would be and all the other LBs were shifted weak as well.

Originally posted by oronis
Originally posted by Focker

I enjoyed this game last season more than any other season I've been here, and I've been here since the beginning. I found that I was able to come up with game plans on the defensive side that helped improve two defenses significantly. This season is almost the exact opposite of last year, and I think it's mainly due to the VAs.

I will have my guys in position to make the play, only to watch them flash, shrivel up, "fall down go boom", whatever you want to call it, over and over and over. I can understand how a CB may not be able to stop a HB with a full head of steam, but there's no reason that 6'4" 250lb LBs and larger safeties shouldn't be able to do SOMETHING when a runner gets loose. I'll have three or four guys with a great angle, but all three will go down like dominos.

I'm assuming this is because of those VA things, but what can I do on defense to counteract this?? Do I need to tell my players to increase confidence? Strength? Vision? What??

Please help, as this is becoming very frustrating.

As a D-Co, your job is in bold. If you've done that, then you've done your job. If your players don't have enough skill to complete the play, then that's on them.



This is so convenient. If your defense does well, the defense coordinator can claim all the glory, but if it fails, you can blame it on your teammates builds.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
That is an agility/vision issue. The RB is juking your guys out.

Here is what I would do: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_create_defense.pl?team_id=442&thumbnail=56738

(left to right)

CB 1 - man WR 1 | HB | blitz
FS - man HB | WR 1 | blitz
ROLB - man HB | blitz
MLB - man HB | FB | blitz or zone
LOLB - man TE | HB | blitz
SS - man TE | HB | blitz
CB 2 - man WR 2 | HB | blitz
all four D-linemen blitzing RDE, DT, NT moved as far weak as possible, LDE depending on what other plays they may use in that situation.

For the LOLB and SS, if it is a pass they will cover the TE, if it is a run they will switch to the HB. His HB will still juke your guys out but this will put a lot more of them around him much quicker. The problem with the 3-4 and weakside runs is that you can only move your NT as far weak as your C and a lot of times you need a big presence at the point of attack or the LG will blow up your LB. Going to a 4-3 vs the weak run allows you to move your DT between the LT and the LG and this basically puts 6 defenders between the LG and the sideline, which should be pretty formidable. Also if your CB1 has pretty good strength and you set him to power pass rush he should many times be able to plow over the WR trying to block him. Setting him to WR 1 | HB means that on a rushing play he wil automatically try to cover the HB instead of WR 1.

Good info. I never really noticed the last drop down box that has the blitz/zone option.

Originally posted by Focker
I agree....these VAs suck!

Check this out....last year this play is stopped with no problem. This year it kills us:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=476174&pbp_id=6260347

Here's another one from today's game:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=476257&pbp_id=9064731

It doesn't matter whether I have guys in position to make a play or not when this kind of crap goes down. Very frustrating.

Holy crap, what a bad defensive play against that run. You put the FS in double coverage on the WR2 and lined him up over that man eliminating him from even attempting to make the play. You ran a 3-4 and it looks like the RILB blitzed so he effectively just ran at the OG and got smoked. Your SS's first move was toward the TE so I suspect he was in man assignment and once again pulling him from the play direction.

Basically, your frustration lies in your opponents ability to scout your defense and take advantage of holes. Kudos to them.