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Originally posted by doubletree
Originally posted by Ladyzman

Originally posted by doubletree


Originally posted by Ladyzman



What Mob-6 is saying is...
Yes, your WR is fast
But if a corner knows play his position *aka, he is well built*, he will be able to cover your WR.

I use to play some Collegiate ball and i will tell you Speed doesn't create the separation you want, its a combination of good speed, great agility, and good vision.
ex: Jerry Rice


I imagine most of us on this site played football and I can tell you that a faster WR running a fly route can and will run right by a slower CB if not given a big enough cushion.


I fully agree, lol. I loved running past much slower or horrible corners. However, when it came to more skilled corners it was different. If your OC doesn't know how to use your speed, if the quarterback cant launch it out fast enough, if you just don't have the gas to go 0-100, these are all element that can factor in on why your speedster can get his full speed going and why maybe a 90 speed corner can cover 110 WR.
Actually, looking at what i wrote it makes more sense. Think of the equation bort has to put in. Now just think if you factored a 110 and 90 speed into i guess 40 times. 110 would be wha, a 4.1 and a 90 would be a 4.2. Yes there is a difference but a very slim because both are amazingly fast. You should understand, if you played football. Yes, i can run a 4.45 and yes i get seperation against people that run 4.7+ but those people near the 4.45 or faster can keep up near me, especially if they are skilled (well built)


I see what your saying but a fast guy can be outran by a faster guy, but if the difference is minimal then it won't really show up. If Bort has it coded in there to be that minimal where 20-25 points of speed isn't noticeable then I guess I wasted some SPs on it.



Unless your player is running more than 40 yds, then this 20-25 difference (90 & 110 are both still amazing fast) will be subtle, which is what i am saying. Yes, you will be faster, yes you will move faster, but unless you are trying to run the 100 every single route, then no, this 90 & 110 difference wont be as obvious as you would like. Now a 100 and 80 may be more obvious, but i believe the closer you are to 100 the less difference you will see.
 
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the concept of a slower CB keeping up with a receiver in coverage isn't that odd.

example: Nnamdi Asomugha


The concept of a WR running right past a slower CB isn't odd at all. I could give you several examples.


The point is not to highlight a WR's ability to beat a poor CB, but a high quality CB's ability to cover a faster WR. But thank you for your enlightening response regardless.


I know what your point was but not every CB in GLB is high quality like Nnamdi is. Its not even that these CBs are that well built, its just the way the game works.

I'm just trying to have a conversation about something related to GLB and you and many others often result to sarcasm and what not.


Fair enough. However, I have seen plenty of receivers run away from CBs who suck so I'm not sure what your point is.

Think of it this way...CBs are built to cover, and can often sacrifice a certain amount of speed b/c they have help over the top if they do happen to get burned. A speed WR is going to be able to burn them vertically, sure, but that speed difference is reduced by a huge amount when a WR operates between 5 and 20 yards, where most WRs tend to play at. For the vast majority of plays that higher speed a speed receiver has is irrelevant.

As far as building goes, your statement that WRs take more categories is simply not true. Your argument that other positions have been nerfed is not as true as you may think either.
 
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